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And i think that to say "What you believe is right to you, and what i believe is right for me" is a good answer, because you do not only respect other people's beliefs, also you respect your own belief, yourself.

So that's all good

And to 3PM: i said my opinion about laws and homosexuality in another topics already, i think you don't want to hear it again

Close this fucking door.

not yet, my friend. The door only closes at the end, you need to have patience, me too.

I'm sorry but I'm not religious at all

Greetings to everybody. I hope you had a good week. I'm also glad that you posted your thoughts freely here, but let's remember first what was said last Saturday

Quoted from ""Artwork_es""

I think that to say "What you believe is right to you, and what i believe is right for me" is a good answer, because you do not only respect other people's beliefs, also you respect your own belief, yourself.

So that's all good

But unfortunately anybody can use that answer to his/her own purposes, for his/her own benefit. In other words, I can say that i'm right and you are right ONLY for you. I can say that the Bible is right, and what you think only is right for you, and you could say the same to me. Do you think now that this is really "respect"? This situation proves that nobody wants to be wrong, even when we are. That hurts, i understand it. We now are using the polite sentence: You and me are both right, and thus we avoid the truth that hurts. Other people use a shield too, when they say: The Catholic church is the Real church. That seems to be self-praising, isn't it?

To end these thoughts about false respects, it's a good thing to understand that I, in my case artwork_es, sometime is wrong too, and the preacher needs to be preached sometimes, that i'm not the only one in this forum, neither in this topic, that nobody is perfect...

And what I just said now only applies to me, or only applies to you?
If it happens for any person, you can trust it.

I mean that the Catholic church claims to be the real one, uses the Bible for her own benefit, and wants to hide things to the people... things written in the Bible as well, and details about the church itself. That's it in few words

I guess anybody can do it, anybody can manipulate the gospel, or anything found in the Bible, just like using a chair to hit somebody in the head.

But the catholic church has money and power to... make rules to trap people in, rules that they don't follow, and money surrounds them while loads of people die of hunger

The gospel is just what Jesus is, did and said in his life, He didn't just said some rules without giving us the example and the capacity to obey them

I know what are you trying to say, but there's even more. People (religious or not) can convert rules in advices as well, according to their interests. For that reason we need to be wise and learn to discern between rules and advices, and which ones are right and which aren't, without making the remedy worse than the illness

Can you prove that, Maria Ferreiro?

If you believe in yourself, you can speak about that, because you know it better than me
If you believe in God, you can speak about God truly, because you know Him.
What's the point of saying things about God when you don't believe in Him?

The Bible tells us that God makes rules: Just in Genesis we can read about God ordered man his first job: Gardening, and the prohition of eating from a single concrete tree (all the rest was allowed) (Genesis 2. 15-17)

And there are more examples, but with this one is enough to understand that God's rules aren't as human advices