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To steal this DVD is very bad - and then to boast about it on the official forum???

And it most certaintly ain't much better to snap a picture of my poop to compete with Hennes and then post it on the Forum!

*trying to cover a bit for WTD since I just DL'd some old stuff from mp3sugar*

Quoted from ""wholaughsnow""

Quoted from ""Sandra""

To steal this DVD is very bad - and then to boast about it on the official forum???

to steal songs/melodies/choruses/lyrics... without permission from other people and making own money with it isn't better

it's a really bad argument just to say other people steal too

Quoted from ""Sandra""

To steal this DVD is very bad - and then to boast about it on the official forum???

Act freaking normal man..... :roll:

Quoted from ""wholaughsnow""

to steal songs/melodies/choruses/lyrics... without permission from other people and making own money with it isn't better

FUCKING RIGHT!!! :wink:

Quoted from ""Bjarke""

Quoted from ""wholaughsnow""

Quoted from ""Sandra""

To steal this DVD is very bad - and then to boast about it on the official forum???

to steal songs/melodies/choruses/lyrics... without permission from other people and making own money with it isn't better

it's a really bad argument just to say other people steal too

Yes - not that I agree with you about Scooter - but you are really just saying if one person does something bad then its OK for everyone - what a terrible place the world would be if we all lived like that! :?

Quoted from ""Sandra""

Yes - not that I agree with you about Scooter - but you are really just saying if one person does something bad then its OK for everyone - what a terrible place the world would be if we all lived like that! :?

That's the way it works. Look at Bush. The terrorist do something like 9/11 and for Bush that's an excuse to start a war against them. Ok, gotta admit that this isn't so bad like 9/11 but the principle is the same. I learned when I was a child that when somebody hits me, I am allowed to hit him back to show that I don't like it what he does. So you gotta give those illegal downloaders some credit: Why should you let Scooter rip music and stuff, but pay for their singles?

I am 14 years old. My Scooter collection has 9 albums and 14 singles. But I have almost every Scooter track on my computer now. Yes, I downloaded them illegaly. Why should I pay for a download if I know that someday I will buy that single/album/dvd? That would be a waste of money, suits me. But in Holland, there aren't much people who have some Scooter things to sell. So it's quite some hard work to find it. But I'll manage, I'm proud on the stuff that I got so far.
So I do pay for it, but I just can't wait to hear for example the singles before they are released

Believe me: If illegal downloading wasn't there, I would have never become a Scooter fan.

Half of the forum here is pretending to be Saints that never download, but we all know that most of us/them download music illegaly but when it comes to Scooter, nobody is downloading anything just because it's the offical forum.I could (but I won't) name three people from this forum that at least once downloaded music from Scooter illegaly, I remember it was an argue on the forum where DC (in these times demoncherry) named three members for which she knew they download Scooter music, but they were hypocritic and were pretending they don't d/l and were blaiming other people for d/l.These same people are mostly acting like Holy virgins when it comes to d/l on forum.Come on, stop being childish...most of the world population is downloading music.

Downloading is not O.K., but people will always follow the easiest trend, that's logical.Downloading music from any artists, whether he steals music or not, is not O.K., because his reputation and income are hurt, but as long as prices in music industry remain like this, downloading will be getting more powerful as it is now, you can see how experienced and professional are some d/l programs compared to those few years ago.

Quoted from ""Sheffieldsfan""

but, hey, where did you get it from? Niot that i'm interested, but I didnt hink anyone would have it

You can find it on almost any p2p program.

And my vote goes to Encore, of course, missing tracks say enough.

I guess its simple really - if everyone downloads no-one will be paid for making music, so won't make music any longer, so no-one will make music - result - a world with no new music

While I don't agree with downloading theres a big difference between downloading a new track while you are waiting to buy it, or a track from an album to see if you like it, but just downloading because you want it and have no intention of ever buying it????

.....and really - that arguement about it being ok if you don't have money - try telling that to the shop that you take something from as the security man stops you as you walk out of the door - electronically or taking physically from a shop - its the same thing.

and saying that while prices are high downloading will continue - while downloading continues prices will get higher - someone has to pay, and it seems like those who pay are also supporting those who don't. Eventually maybe prices will get too high - so no-one will be able to afford to buy, so no-one will be able to afford to make music their career - result - nothing new to either buy or download, so we all loose out in the end.

Oh Sandra you are so wrong. It's true that musics sells less than in the 90's but there are couple of interesting facts:

One american university made research that downloading doesn't harm the artists. It was because of downloading records are sold 1% more than without those nice p2p networks. It is true that someone just uses them and have no eager to buy anything but then again there are also many people who tries that act and this act and if they like it they would go to the store and buy the record which they wouldn't have bought without downloading. And really... situation isn't so bad that allmighty record companies says. In Finland we had good statistics which clearly showed that people buy 10% less music than in the 90's...

Also record companies whines when they have a hard time. Well here's a secret. They have made records more epxensive. Not because people won't buy the albums. They just wants more money. Last year the big recordcompanies got most money ever! And didn't we suppose to have hard times when nobody buys anything?

And most of the artists makes music when they like it. And you know artists will get only 4% of money from the recordsells. It's the gigs where they get money from.

Edit: By the way maybe I should also say reasons why they sell 10% less records. it's kinda simple. DVD's and videogames. They are expensive and many youngsters buys those. Many young people just can't afford to buy so much music anymore.

Quoted from ""MC A.H""

it's kinda simple. DVD's and videogames. They are expensive and many youngsters buys those. Many young people just can't afford to buy so much music anymore.

Like I said Sandra, I don't have that much money since I spend it to more then just Scooter. And since downloading DVD's an videogames is to hard for me to get, the choice is easily made.

Quoted from ""MC A.H""

Oh Sandra you are so wrong. It's true that musics sells less than in the 90's but there are couple of interesting facts:

One american university made research that downloading doesn't harm the artists. It was because of downloading records are sold 1% more than without those nice p2p networks. It is true that someone just uses them and have no eager to buy anything but then again there are also many people who tries that act and this act and if they like it they would go to the store and buy the record which they wouldn't have bought without downloading. And really... situation isn't so bad that allmighty record companies says. In Finland we had good statistics which clearly showed that people buy 10% less music than in the 90's...

Also record companies whines when they have a hard time. Well here's a secret. They have made records more epxensive. Not because people won't buy the albums. They just wants more money. Last year the big recordcompanies got most money ever! And didn't we suppose to have hard times when nobody buys anything?

And most of the artists makes music when they like it. And you know artists will get only 4% of money from the recordsells. It's the gigs where they get money from.

Edit: By the way maybe I should also say reasons why they sell 10% less records. it's kinda simple. DVD's and videogames. They are expensive and many youngsters buys those. Many young people just can't afford to buy so much music anymore.

MC A.H is correct in what he says.

I download an awful lot these days. I will freely admit that. That's not out of disrespect for the artists or anything. But a lot of the stuff i download, i simply wouldn't buy if downloading was not available to me. I have a lot of tunes in my collection that are quite good, but i would have never have paid money for them.

And CDs are definately over-priced. To have actually bought every mp3 i own on CD would be literally impossible financially.

Also, in years gone by a lot of my favourite tracks only came out on vinyl. I have no interest in buying vinyl and i want digital format so downloading was always the prefered option. Luckily, the digital age of download shops is helping that now.

I openly admit to download some stuff - because of overpriced legal stuff.. I have no problem with that, when I support the industry as much as I can apart from that - I just bought 10 vinyls - some people will earn money from that I think :? but with some stuff, I download it so I can use it until I can afford the real version, plus there are some things that I would never go buy anyway

Quoted from ""pjad_uk""

I have no interest in buying vinyl and i want digital format so downloading was always the prefered option. Luckily, the digital age of download shops is helping that probably now.

You want mp3 over vinyl? :shock:

And digital age is good but not, if they some day will stop making vinyls.
I hope that will never happen. I like vinyls very much.

Don't worry. Dj's keeps the vinyl alive.

Quoted from ""Dave From Sheffield""

Quoted from ""pjad_uk""

I have no interest in buying vinyl and i want digital format so downloading was always the prefered option. Luckily, the digital age of download shops is helping that probably now.

You want mp3 over vinyl? :shock:

And digital age is good but not, if they some day will stop making vinyls.
I hope that will never happen. I like vinyls very much.

Of course i prefer mp3s to vinyl. I don't have a vinyl deck of my own so i don't want vinyls. The majority of DJs are swtiching to mp3s and CDs for DJing now. But i'm not even a DJ. The only reason some people still prefer vinyl is for purely sentimental reasons.

Hehe, this topic is changing into an admit-that-you-download-illegal-topic.

im a pathetic fan i have none off them :oops: