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Sunday, May 23rd 2010, 5:18pm

He is not just - as you call it - "raising awareness". To be a honest, he's a hypocrite, wanting to replace one kind of "supremacy" with a different kind of supremacy as well as promoting denial of mass murder. You don't think that's kinda dangerous?
I've never come across anything of David Duke's that suggests he's a hypocrite, and I fail to understand your reasoning here.

Considering the United States was founded by Europeans, and by that I mean structured into a nation and put on the map, 'supremacy' from the people that created it is just as a natural a notion as black people governing South Africa. Of course, one is more comprehensible to you than the other in this instance, as you find it inexplicably easier to sympathize with one race more than the other. However, even this parallel is inadequate to apply to our people in our nations, as blacks in South Africa, blacks across the continent, in fact, aren't facing their racial mortality. To the contrary, the lack of immigration and societal attitudes in Africa is directly contributing to an incremental increase in their birth rates-- almost doubling their population numbers. Whites, or indigenous Europeans, on the other hand, are swiftly dwindling to a minatory, with birth rates continuing to precipitously drop.


Now, the real hypocrisy stems not from David Duke, or anyone else for that matter, but from the governmental and media establishment that appear to be celebrating these worrying shifts in demographics. This media, who constantly preaches about the immorality of genocide and never lets a single day go by where we can forget about the horrors of the Jewish holocaust, classifying it as the greatest crime in all of history, are the very ones responsible for furthering the goals of diversity-- which is invariably linked to our declining presence in the world. Additionally, as Jewish lobby groups and media cronies own a vast amount of the media and other establishments, they, hypocritically, wield their support of Israel in America's foreign policy by openly admitting that the state of Israel should be protected, as it is a land for the Jews. The preservation of Jewish heritage, culture and genetic integrity, in the eyes of the Jewish media, is entirely permissible, even at the expense of non-Jews being slaughtered and sacrificed in the process. On the other hand, a White European, desperately trying to the ensure the same thing in their homelands, is deemed a vile human being, a racist. Your reaction to me using David Duke as a source for shedding light on the degeneracy of Inglorious Basterds proves my point definitively.

This is exactly why I support Dr. David Duke. The mainstream media keeps relatively silent about the inevitability of Europeans being relegated to minorities across the US and Europe within a few short generations, and labels those that address the issue as nuisances. All of this is suspect, pointing toward a deliberate attempt to displace Europeans off every continent on the globe. From an astounding 30% total of the population around sixty years ago, to a whopping drop of 8% in the 21st century, whites are slowly fading away.

Jews, being wholly responsible for all of this, openly advocate maintaining the genetic integrity and preservation of their people in one hand, but condemn European peoples for calling for the advocating and practice of the same thing. A quick Google search on your part should enlighten you to their appalling attitudes that have gotten us where we are today.

And in relation to your preposterous claim that David Duke is encouraging people to deny the holocaust; have you ever honestly caught him stating that the holocaust is an over-exaggerated fabrication? He, and I happen to agree with him, you know, living a in democratically oriented nation that supposedly prides itself on free speech and all, that historians and researchers should subject the holocaust to the same universal scrutiny that is applied to every other historical event. What makes the holocaust, of all the massacres that have taken place throughout history, so special? Why have they enacted so many laws around it? Why are historians being arrested and tried for doing their jobs? What are you trying to hide? Your totalitarian mentality gives me the impression that, despite the incongruence and scientific impossibilities surrounding some of the survivors accounts, you still want desperately to believe hat tit happened. Why are you so eager to ensure that we believe it happened? Are you actually sick enough to exploit the suffering, of any people, in fact, to further your own political goals?

David Duke isn't dangerous in the slightest. Only a non-white would proclaim him to be so, and they are stupendously wrong anyway when saying so.
what makes you think I sympathize with one race more than any other? I completely FAIL to understand that ;)

and to quote David Duke's own website (http://www.davidduke.com/general/free-zundel_263.html)
"there wasn’t an actual German master plan or policy to kill all the Jews of Europe. He honestly believed that the so-called Holocaust as presented was an extension of war propaganda that had the intention of helping to secure support for the establishment of the Zionist state."

you won't call that Holocaust denial?

And about Israel... Do you really think it belongs more to one group of people than another? I don't think so. Through history the piece of land known today as "Israel" has been inhabited by various people.

I agree with you on one point though. The mass murder of Jews during World War 2 is as much mass murder as any other mass murder. Being a student of the history of China, the systematic extermination of muslims during the Hui rebellions of the 19th century (more than 90% of all muslims in the areas of rebellion were killed) as well as the Japanese occupation of China beginning in 1937 are just a few examples of the frequency of mass murder during the course of history.
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Monday, May 24th 2010, 1:31pm

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what makes you think I sympathize with one race more than any other? I completely FAIL to understand tha
I've developed a rather presumptuous habit over the years of just assuming those I'm engaging in discussion with are oriented toward the devilishly far left side of the political spectrum. However, in my defense, some of your words have raised suspicion. A strong indicator was your unjustified dismissal of David Duke's intelligent input on the sadistic Jewish pornographic flick, Inglorous Basterds. You said, quote; "I would probably refrain from referring to David Duke when actually trying to make a serious point...". And being the icon that he is to White Nationalists around the world, indicates from your disregard for his courageous activism that you fall into the enemy column.


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and to quote David Duke's own website (http://www.davidduke.com/general/free-zundel_263.html)
"there wasn’t an actual German master plan or policy to kill all the Jews of Europe. He honestly believed that the so-called Holocaust as presented was an extension of war propaganda that had the intention of helping to secure support for the establishment of the Zionist state."

you won't call that Holocaust denial?
The passage that you quoted was taken from an article about an innocent historian who investigated the holocaust many years ago, coming to the conclusion that it had been aggrandized through provable lies and sentimental manipulation. If you concur with the animalistic attacks on this harmless researcher for merely scrutinizing the holocaust in the same fashion that other historical massacres are analyzed, you support the suppression of freedom of speech and expression. It is as simple as that.



Besides which, Ernest Zudenal never once went on record and denied the holocaust. He merely came to the conclusion that this event is shrouded in lies and subterfuge. His so-called 'crime', was merely writing articles and books on the subject that happened to contradict the mainstream medias account of the event. What lies you ask? Lies that have already been countlessly debunked by Jewish scholars, such as the conversion of human fats from murdered Jews into soap. His logic, and sound logic at that, is that if they are able to keep up a diabolical lie like that for fifty odd years, what else have they been less than honest about? This alone, should permit historians and scientists the freedom to examine some of the outlandish survival stories of Nazi concentration camps.


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And about Israel... Do you really think it belongs more to one group of people than another? I don't think so. Through history the piece of land known today as "Israel" has been inhabited by various people.
Who are you kidding? Israel is a terrorist state, threatening to envelop the world with its reprehensible violence and questionable actions toward the indigenous Palestinians of the Middle East. This recent video by Dr. David Duke highlights the dangers and ramifications for the world if Israel drags the United States into another conflict, which is in no way connected with American interests. Watch it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qxzZY4JycY

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Tuesday, May 25th 2010, 2:32am

you failed to answer my question regarding sympathy. Besides, if I ever happen to watch Inglorious Basterds, I will not take it for anything more than mere braindead entertainment. And about David Duke being an icon? His opinions would probably be the same if he wasn't, just as well as mine :P

I'm a strong supporter of free speech. I am just pointing out what I think is denial :) IF (put a thick line under this one) David Duke/Ernst Zundel/whoever were to be persecuted and their ideas were to be rid of, the approach usually used is wrong.

It's a sad reality, but history is - no matter which side of the political spectrum you're on and whatever you believe in - littered with lies.

about "Israel", Palestinians are as much indigenous to that area as the Jews are. And I do agree that "Israel" uses ugly methods. This has been proven time and time again, as well as the ugly methods of some radical Palestinians. This conflict fuels radicalization. Unfortunately, regular people always pay the price in these conflicts. And I know about the dangers of a war with Iran. A friend of mine just got his BA in Persian (the language plus the study of the area of land known today as Iran). They already have pretty bad experiences with American influence, and even though people in Iran may hate their government, they hate the US even more - so there's no question of what will happen in case of an attack.

Maybe we should take this discussion somewhere else. After all, this thread is about movies :P
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Tuesday, May 25th 2010, 2:58am

Yeah I don't have a fav movie of the day but my fav's are:

Kill Bill 1 and 2.
Lord Of War.
Man On Fire.
Silence Of The Lambs.
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Tuesday, May 25th 2010, 11:46am

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Maybe we should take this discussion somewhere else. After all, this thread is about movies
True. We appear to of derailed it quite considerably-- although I think it's brought the thread to life a little bit. Hehe. And I still fervently standby my previous statements about this forum catering too much to those that would rather treat this forum as a social networking site, as opposed to somewhere where serious discussion can be civilly practiced and encouraged. The discussion we've had here demonstrates how members can add that bit of sophistication, whilst at the same time participating in the threads that are less than intellectual. I feel that finding a balance between the two would do this forums a lot of favors.


I would dedicate a thread to discussing this delicate issue, but, admittedly, I do fear the backlash and damage to my reputation that may result from me merely defending my point of view. I've already gone in depth into the possible deterrent of overpopulation, which, I think, has cost me the much needed image of having a heart; being able to feel compassion and sympathize. I have these traits, but I fear some members actually view me as this walking parasite that is irreproachably heartless. If we meet in Hamburg, you'll this that this is nothing further from the truth. :D I'm actually quite shy, but open up eventually in a nice and friendly way when I begin to feel comfortable. Just please don't perceive in some negative light... I beg you. That's just not me.


I think discussing this intriguing debate in person would be a lot more fruitful-- provided that it is civil, which I now have no doubts that it will be confrontational in anyway. How about it, Bjarke? Oh, and I will add you to my contacts.

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Tuesday, May 25th 2010, 4:10pm

jack frost :P
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Tuesday, May 25th 2010, 4:42pm

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Maybe we should take this discussion somewhere else. After all, this thread is about movies
True. We appear to of derailed it quite considerably-- although I think it's brought the thread to life a little bit. Hehe. And I still fervently standby my previous statements about this forum catering too much to those that would rather treat this forum as a social networking site, as opposed to somewhere where serious discussion can be civilly practiced and encouraged. The discussion we've had here demonstrates how members can add that bit of sophistication, whilst at the same time participating in the threads that are less than intellectual. I feel that finding a balance between the two would do this forums a lot of favors.

I would dedicate a thread to discussing this delicate issue, but, admittedly, I do fear the backlash and damage to my reputation that may result from me merely defending my point of view. I've already gone in depth into the possible deterrent of overpopulation, which, I think, has cost me the much needed image of having a heart; being able to feel compassion and sympathize. I have these traits, but I fear some members actually view me as this walking parasite that is irreproachably heartless. If we meet in Hamburg, you'll this that this is nothing further from the truth. :D I'm actually quite shy, but open up eventually in a nice and friendly way when I begin to feel comfortable. Just please don't perceive in some negative light... I beg you. That's just not me.

I think discussing this intriguing debate in person would be a lot more fruitful-- provided that it is civil, which I now have no doubts that it will be confrontational in anyway. How about it, Bjarke? Oh, and I will add you to my contacts.
as long as our discussion remains serious and we don't call each other sick freaks or something like that. After all discussion is about exchanging opinions, not forcing ones opinion onto others. This should be our strength, disagreeing a lot but still discussing in a relatively down-to-earth manner.

Looking forward to further discussions :)
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Thursday, May 27th 2010, 10:02pm

Home Alone Classic
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Friday, June 4th 2010, 4:05pm

book of eli :thumbsup:
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Friday, December 16th 2011, 9:45pm

Exit Through The Gift Shop - A Bansky Film

Never heard about Bansky until this this evening. Not much for vandalism in general but Bansky´s rat with the big brush is very cute :)

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Friday, December 16th 2011, 9:49pm

Jackass 3.5

must say I haven't laughed that hysterically for years... To be honest, such light-hearted, juvenile behaviour as expressed in the Jackass movies is a sight for sore eyes when I need a break or two from my studies
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Friday, December 16th 2011, 9:57pm

Jackass 3.5

must say I haven't laughed that hysterically for years... To be honest, such light-hearted, juvenile behaviour as expressed in the Jackass movies is a sight for sore eyes when I need a break or two from my studies

I laughed like hell the first time I saw Jackass 3D :D
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Friday, December 16th 2011, 10:45pm

Jackass 3.5

must say I haven't laughed that hysterically for years... To be honest, such light-hearted, juvenile behaviour as expressed in the Jackass movies is a sight for sore eyes when I need a break or two from my studies

I laughed like hell the first time I saw Jackass 3D :D


I like the "original" Jackass 3 as well - I'm very fond of the comic-style segments :thumbsup:
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Saturday, December 17th 2011, 12:00am

Jackass 3.5

must say I haven't laughed that hysterically for years... To be honest, such light-hearted, juvenile behaviour as expressed in the Jackass movies is a sight for sore eyes when I need a break or two from my studies

I laughed like hell the first time I saw Jackass 3D :D


I like the "original" Jackass 3 as well - I'm very fond of the comic-style segments :thumbsup:

You gotta be crazy to do stupid things that brings you pain, record it and earn money on the movies.
Or genius? :D
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Saturday, December 17th 2011, 12:36am

Jackass 3.5

must say I haven't laughed that hysterically for years... To be honest, such light-hearted, juvenile behaviour as expressed in the Jackass movies is a sight for sore eyes when I need a break or two from my studies

I laughed like hell the first time I saw Jackass 3D :D


I like the "original" Jackass 3 as well - I'm very fond of the comic-style segments :thumbsup:

You gotta be crazy to do stupid things that brings you pain, record it and earn money on the movies.
Or genius? :D


stupid or crazy, I find it very relieving to watch 8)
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Saturday, December 17th 2011, 12:41am

vertigo, directed by alfred hitchcock and stars james stuart

now that is a classic
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Monday, December 19th 2011, 3:52am

I have got 7 DVDs from M Night Shyamalan.

I would say today's fave movie is THE LADY FROM THE WATER by and with the sexy M Night Shyamalan. Im such a groupie because I just love his movies and he is very handsome.
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Thursday, December 29th 2011, 2:39pm

Watched Iron Man with a neighbor last night.
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Friday, December 30th 2011, 6:50am

Matrix and waffen.net is still a realy good movie for me :)

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Saturday, January 7th 2012, 1:06am

Tonight - Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
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