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The main problem of some people is that they became fans in 1st or 2nd chapter and they are 100% sure that at this time Scooter have ripped/covered less. They praise Axel and Ferris and call them gods, because they think they didn't use other melodies and have made more original work.Wrong!!If it's not listed in the booklet of the album, it still doesn't mean that it's 100% Scooter work - on BTTHJ there is nothing written about parts in songs from other artists and that's why some people praise BTTHJ so much because they think it's 100% Scooter work!But we'we all heard piano melody from Well done, Peter, main melody from Kashmir is not unknown either and I could count for ages....What about rock covers from 1st chapter-I'm raving, Rebel Yell..they are covers of old rock songs, but just because they are from 1st or 2nd chapter, they should be better as rock cover from 3rd chapter, made by Jay or what?Nonsense!

I was also not very keen on covers and ripp-offs for some time, because I really thought that they've become so often in the last chapter, but just because of this forum my eyes opened and I saw that there were borrowed parts in the past as well, not in lesser extent that today.

We have discussed these things to often.
I will not read it again and again. :roll:

It is right that Scooter have borrowed parts or whole songs from the beginning.
They have started as a remix team, every song from them is better then the original.

If you hate covers and songs with borrowed parts so very much then better choose for another group. :wink:
For me exist no better group.

And yes fan is of course a short form from fanatic. :wink:
So it is normal that a fan is fanatic. :wink:

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Quoted from ""theavenger""

creativity is down like never before in Scooter history since Jay Frog joins Scooter. Don't tell me he isn't a reason cause creativ work goes down since he is in the band, they steal so much like never before and they always use the same commercial draft for singles now and do sound recycling. Only fanatics can ignore this fact. And you ask why somebody did again such a topic? That's a sign that many people think so. YOU CAN SEE IT ALSO AT MY POLL

Poll :: WHICH PRODUCER TEAM IS THE WORST FOR YOU

H.P. RICK JAY FROG
66% [ 20 ]
H.P. RICK AXEL COON
13% [ 4 ]
H.P. RICK FERRIS BUELLER
20% [ 6 ]

Argh... Still don't get it. Some people just don't care about covering. It sounds great and they are happy with that.

Quoted from ""theavenger""

Quoted from ""Dave From Sheffield""

Argh... Still don't get it. Some people just don't care about covering. It sounds great and they are happy with that.

Yeah but some people are not happy with it and you can not forbid these people their opinion only if you don't like what they say.

Hm... Can't you admit that Hello! (Good To Be Back) sounds great? Forget covering and just think and must important: Listen the track. It's great. Bassline is hard, lyrics work, main melody is full of energy... The whole track rocks. And they have made an excellent version of Gary Glitter's song. I love it. And yes, i know about music and make some myself...

Quoted from ""a.k.a.Mateusz""

Ehhh, nevermind.

Yes, nevermind. But don't call normal people whose like Scooter 'fanatics' in the future.

Quoted from ""Scobom X""

Quoted from ""a.k.a.Mateusz""

Ehhh, nevermind.

Yes, nevermind. But don't call normal people whose like Scooter 'fanatics' in the future.

But don't call normal people who like Scooter but critizize them a bit "haters" in the future.

The can is open and the worms are everywhere. :lol:

I really don't understand why everyone can't treat this topic sensibly without getting all emotional. This is actually an interesting point for debate - But we can't have such a debate without the word "fanatic" and various expletives littering the screen. :?

Quoted from ""MC A.H""

Quoted from ""Scobom X""

Quoted from ""a.k.a.Mateusz""

Ehhh, nevermind.

Yes, nevermind. But don't call normal people whose like Scooter 'fanatics' in the future.

But don't call normal people who like Scooter but critizize them a bit "haters" in the future.

You again? :?

If they criticize Scooter "a bit" like you said, I would never call them haters.

The problem with the "critics" here,is that they went over the top,posting in every single topic how bad Scooter are with Jay.
Guys,we know it,we respect your opinion,until the point when you go over the top,by posting in every topic how shit Jay and his music is.
I think that your shouting how bad the 3rd chapter is won't help you much.
As far as I can see WGTLLN won't be made out of consideration only for the Developer and his kind of fans.
I think after each experience and wide genres of music album like Sheffield will come a harder,more into the classic Scooter style album, like when came WBTN.
And,also now after MTG,I believe,will come a more classic sound of Scooter.
People need to expand their professionalism,every masters which are best in what they do,will be bored if they do things that they're good at over and over again,they will want to try make something different.
Like if you know English good enough,you will try to learn another language.If you good in programming in C++,you'll want to learn another programming language. Just to not get bored,and free your mind from the same stuff.
Same with Scooter,they experienced,they freed their mind from same music,now they'll go back to their style.

Quoted from ""Xer""

The problem with the "critics" here,is that they went over the top,posting in every single topic how bad Scooter are with Jay.
Guys,we know it,we respect your opinion,until the point when you go over the top,by posting in every topic how S##t Jay and his music is.

This is the problem.

BTW: I agree with rest of your post. When "Shake That!" was released I was very unhappy, but then I realized that it will be good and interesting to "have" Scooter experimental album with something different.

Quoted from ""developer""

Quoted from ""Dave From Sheffield""

Quoted from ""theavenger""

Quoted from ""Dave From Sheffield""

Argh... Still don't get it. Some people just don't care about covering. It sounds great and they are happy with that.

Yeah but some people are not happy with it and you can not forbid these people their opinion only if you don't like what they say.

Hm... Can't you admit that Hello! (Good To Be Back) sounds great? Forget covering and just think and must important: Listen the track. It's great. Bassline is hard, lyrics work, main melody is full of energy... The whole track rocks. And they have made an excellent version of Gary Glitter's song. I love it. And yes, i know about music and make some myself...

Wrong! hello is easy non-powerful S##t track

Let's say that I agree with you. Are you happy? You see, little things give pleasure little minds...

OK,Developer,for the sake of you leaving us alone,let's say,you converted us that music from 3rd chapter is shit and I and the rest of the "fanatics" agree with you.
Now what? What is your course of action? What did you achieve by this?
You're going dancing on the ceiling? You gonna sing Halleluyah? What?

Quoted from ""developer""

Quoted from ""Dave From Sheffield""

Quoted from ""theavenger""

Quoted from ""Dave From Sheffield""

Argh... Still don't get it. Some people just don't care about covering. It sounds great and they are happy with that.

Yeah but some people are not happy with it and you can not forbid these people their opinion only if you don't like what they say.

Hm... Can't you admit that Hello! (Good To Be Back) sounds great? Forget covering and just think and must important: Listen the track. It's great. Bassline is hard, lyrics work, main melody is full of energy... The whole track rocks. And they have made an excellent version of Gary Glitter's song. I love it. And yes, i know about music and make some myself...

Wrong! hello is easy non-powerful S##t track

I was talking about how i see Hello! (Good To Be Back). :roll:

Quoted from ""Xer""

OK,Developer,for the sake of you leaving us alone,let's say,you converted us that music from 3rd chapter is S##t and I and the rest of the "fanatics" agree with you.
Now what? What is your course of action? What did you achieve by this?
You're going dancing on the ceiling? You gonna sing Halleluyah? What?

Haha :lol: . Good one Xer