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Friday, June 24th 2005, 1:15pm

About Trance-atlantic

I know about doing covers, and it's normal, not only Scooter do that. But when I have read all the things about stealing, my skin become into pale. Scooter "thiefs"? But why there's written on the booklet of "Suavemente" that "Trance-atlantic" is written by H.P. Baxxter, Rick J. Jordan, Jay Frog, Jens Thele"? I came back home and I listened to Active Sight - "Out Of Our Lives" (Orginal Edit)... and I can't believed in that what I heard! Active Sight - "Out Of Our Lives" and Scooter - "Trance-atlantic" are different tracks!!!
I can't believe that you heard it and you said something like "It's shame"{f**k...}
Of course we can see that guys from Scooter were inspired by Active Sight track, but "Trance-atlantic" it's really different! However both tracks are great. I really feel relief now. I also listened to Mac Zimms - "L'annonce Des Couleurs" (The Mystery Remix) and it's also different than "Jigga Jigga!" It's similar but not the same.
Don't be silly; if Scooter stole someone's music what do you think would happen?
It would have final in court, don't you think?
Ps. Sorry For My English - It's not perfect:)

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Friday, June 24th 2005, 2:16pm

Re: About Trance-atlatic

[quote="Scobom X"]I know about doing covers, and it's normal, not only Scooter do that. But when I have read all the things about stealing, my skin become into pale. Scooter "thiefs"? But why there's written on the booklet of "Suavemente" that "Trance-atlantic" is written by H.P. Baxxter, Rick J. Jordan, Jay Frog, Jens Thele"? I came back home and I listened to Active Sight - "Out Of Our Lives" (Orginal Edit)... and I can't believed in that what I heard! Active Sight - "Out Of Our Lives" and Scooter - "Trance-atlantic" are different tracks!!!
I can't believe that you heard it and you said something like "It's shame"{f**k...}
Of course we can see that guys from Scooter were inspired by Active Sight track, but "Trance-atlantic" it's really different! However both tracks are great. I really feel relief now. I also listened to Mac Zimms - "L'annonce Des Couleurs" (The Mystery Remix) and it's also different than "Jigga Jigga!" It's similar but not the same.
Don't be silly; if Scooter stole someone's music what do you think would happen?
It would have final in court, don't you think?
Ps. Sorry For My English - It's not perfect:)[/quote]

Yes you are right, they changed them a bit but it's obvious that they got inspired by these tracks.

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Friday, June 24th 2005, 3:33pm

Welcome to the forum :D

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Saturday, June 25th 2005, 10:07am

Re: About Trance-atlatic

Quoted from ""Scobom X""

I know about doing covers, and it's normal, not only Scooter do that. But when I have read all the things about stealing, my skin become into pale. Scooter "thiefs"? But why there's written on the booklet of "Suavemente" that "Trance-atlantic" is written by H.P. Baxxter, Rick J. Jordan, Jay Frog, Jens Thele"? I came back home and I listened to Active Sight - "Out Of Our Lives" (Orginal Edit)... and I can't believed in that what I heard! Active Sight - "Out Of Our Lives" and Scooter - "Trance-atlantic" are different tracks!!!
I can't believe that you heard it and you said something like "It's shame"{f**k...}
Of course we can see that guys from Scooter were inspired by Active Sight track, but "Trance-atlantic" it's really different! However both tracks are great. I really feel relief now. I also listened to Mac Zimms - "L'annonce Des Couleurs" (The Mystery Remix) and it's also different than "Jigga Jigga!" It's similar but not the same.
Don't be silly; if Scooter stole someone's music what do you think would happen?
It would have final in court, don't you think?
Ps. Sorry For My English - It's not perfect:)

Hey, I see blind shit here! Look what you wrote! Scooter are robbers and everybody know that. Blinker!!!

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Saturday, June 25th 2005, 1:44pm

Welcome! Hey listen, I totally agree with you. They are absolutly different tracks.

As a matter of fact, the unique music in MtG that they can say it's clearly not of Scooter is One (always hardcore). But... Hey! Scooter did his own version, ... and.. really better one! So.. MtG is a great album, and I don't think any more in those ideas....

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Saturday, June 25th 2005, 3:38pm

Re: About Trance-atlatic

Quoted from ""Scobom X""

if Scooter stole someone's music what do you think would happen?


What would happen if Scooter stole someone's music? This already happened so much times! And it seems they don't want stop it in future. If they repeat stealing furthermore it's the slowly but surely end of Scooter in the next years. Nobody out there want hear the hundredth standard Scooter remake of another old classic track in series(except fanatics). Own hit compositions wanted! Otherwise I think they can't hold their big success anymore in next future. People out there feel stated with Scooter cover after Scooter cover. It's always the same concept. And this rip and mix concept is utilised after all this years!

That's just a warning, but I think Scooter don't want realise that situation is really critical. Almost the whole forum cried for a own composition Single and now we have rumours that new single will be again a remake of an old classic track. :roll:

They loose more and more respect and authenticity with this behaviour. And consequence of this will be sooner or later that they loosing more and more fans and buyers.

The better choice would be to take a break and create a own composition! But it seems that they are don't able or to lazy for this with Jay. Not 1 (partially) own composition Single in 3rd chapter so far and it seems that they don't change it next future... That's so embarrassing if you call yourself band.

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Saturday, June 25th 2005, 4:57pm

Well that's not my opinion.

Really far from my way to see the things here.

Anyway, is good to see some disagreeing in this forum without see people calling names each other.

Respect is important.

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Saturday, June 25th 2005, 5:31pm

I totally agree with Pitchshifter

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Saturday, June 25th 2005, 7:11pm

I agree with Pitchshifter to certain extent and would also like to see Scooter song, with word Scooter in right meaning.

But I think, even if they cover again, this will not be the end of Scooter, because there is always a lot of posse that will buy Scooter stuff no matter the origin.

It's true that less singles/albums could be sold, but I think that Scooter will stay more or less on top anyway.

I don't know how much do you know about Balcan dance artists, there is one band called Karma and they didn't make their own composition so far, all their songs are complete covers - but they are still considered as main dance act of Balcan and they sell a lot of their products.

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Sunday, June 26th 2005, 3:39pm

Re: About Trance-atlatic

Hey, I see blind S##t here! Look what you wrote! Scooter are robbers and everybody know that. Blinker!!!

Ty mała suczko, powiem krótko: PIERDOL PSA JAK SRA
Jak ci sie nie podoba Scooter to wypierdalaj stąd.
Ja jestem ślepym gównem, a ty jesteś głuchą suką skoro mówisz że Trance-atlantic jest coverem Out Of Our Lives.
Robisz z siebie ciula, wiesz o tym?

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Sunday, June 26th 2005, 3:53pm

Re: About Trance-atlatic

Quoted from ""Pitchshifter""

Quoted from ""Scobom X""

if Scooter stole someone's music what do you think would happen?


What would happen if Scooter stole someone's music? This already happened so much times! And it seems they don't want stop it in future. If they repeat stealing furthermore it's the slowly but surely end of Scooter in the next years. Nobody out there want hear the hundredth standard Scooter remake of another old classic track in series(except fanatics). Own hit compositions wanted! Otherwise I think they can't hold their big success anymore in next future. People out there feel stated with Scooter cover after Scooter cover. It's always the same concept. And this rip and mix concept is utilised after all this years!

That's just a warning, but I think Scooter don't want realise that situation is really critical. Almost the whole forum cried for a own composition Single and now we have rumours that new single will be again a remake of an old classic track. :roll:

They loose more and more respect and authenticity with this behaviour. And consequence of this will be sooner or later that they loosing more and more fans and buyers.

The better choice would be to take a break and create a own composition! But it seems that they are don't able or to lazy for this with Jay. Not 1 (partially) own composition Single in 3rd chapter so far and it seems that they don't change it next future... That's so embarrassing if you call yourself band.


How do you know that?
How can you say that Trance-atlantic is copy of "Out Of Our Lives"?
Have even hear it?
I think you just don't like Scooter anymore. It's ok, but if you don't like the music...what are you doing here? I don't want to attack you but you and some other people still complain about Scooter here ("it was better in 1999 etc.). It's usless. This is Scooter today, and if you don't like it you just don't like Scooter anymore. It's simple.

I don't think the situation is critical. You must remember that there are only a few people bored with life and complaining whatever Scooter do.
Don't you see that? aka Mateusz attacked Scooter for no reason, because Trance-atlantic isn't copy.
But I don't care. This don't change anything. That's why Scooter is still on the case.

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Sunday, June 26th 2005, 4:02pm

Scobom X

Totally agree with you.

You REALLY said EVERYTHING that I think about them.

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Sunday, June 26th 2005, 4:15pm

Quoted from ""Turbo666""

Welcome! Hey listen, I totally agree with you. They are absolutly different tracks.

As a matter of fact, the unique music in MtG that they can say it's clearly not of Scooter is One (always hardcore). But... Hey! Scooter did his own version, ... and.. really better one! So.. MtG is a great album, and I don't think any more in those ideas....


I'm here again.
"One (Always Hardcore)" is cover, but only main melody.
The great hard pumpin' beat and words are made by Scooter.
It's good to make covers like that because Scooter do it with their own wicked style and make them sound great. Many bands and producers do covers and it's good because the old great ideas are still alive.

Don't listen to jealous dogs like {you know who}, just enjoy the music.
While waiting for the new stuff I recommend to you Kyau vs. Albert, ATB and Mirco de Govia. There's a lot of good music, not only Scooter:)

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Sunday, June 26th 2005, 4:17pm

Quoted from ""Turbo666""

Scobom X

Totally agree with you.

You REALLY said EVERYTHING that I think about them.


Of course:)

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Sunday, June 26th 2005, 4:27pm

Re: About Trance-atlatic

Quoted from ""Scobom X""


How do you know that?
How can you say that Trance-atlantic is copy of "Out Of Our Lives"?
Have even hear it?


Where did I say that Trance Atlantic is a copy? It isn't exactly the same, but the whole basic idea and basic sound is ripped and re-created from Out of Our Lives. And another part they ripped for this track is the melody from Safri Duo - Played A Live. It's obvious that they change everything a little bit in order that nobody can say they copied it exactly. And it's not only Trance Atlantic, the whole album Mind The Gap is based on this concept. This isn't inspiration anymore, that's merciless idea and melody ripping from others for me.

Quoted from ""Scobom X""


I think you just don't like Scooter anymore. It's ok, but if you don't like the music...what are you doing here? I don't want to attack you but you and some other people still complain about Scooter here ("it was better in 1999 etc.). It's usless. This is Scooter today, and if you don't like it you just don't like Scooter anymore. It's simple.


I like their sound still, but not what they are doing again and again with their idea and melody ripp-offs from other artists. They prefer the easiest stress-free way to make money with their rip-off music again and again. But I think a band must create some 100% own songs once in a while. Otherwise they didn't deserve the title band. In past they often did some own compositions, but now with Jay complete rip-off after rip-off and no way out. Either they don't able anymore to create own music with Jay, or they are to lazy and prefer the easiest money making way, cause they don't need stress with own compositions anymore, because they are absolutely famed today.

Quoted from ""Scobom X""


I don't think the situation is critical. You must remember that there are only a few people bored with life and complaining whatever Scooter do.
Don't you see that? aka Mateusz attacked Scooter for no reason, because Trance-atlantic isn't copy.
But I don't care. This don't change anything. That's why Scooter is still on the case.


If only a few people bored with Scooters music why Suavemente doesn't have any good commercial success? Why they don't release Shake That and Suavemente in the U.K. because of to bad promotion results? I think not a few people have doubts about Scooters behaviour and neverending ripp-offs. It's a real problem for future of Scooter. Cause they do it without any respect and recesses again and again. People are bored with that neverending classic remake standard rip-offs. If you always use the same concept it doesn't work anymore someday. And I think people are feeling really sated after all this classic remakes with same concept. They want finally hear own song ideas not new versions of old classic tracks all the time.

And not every Scooterfan is so much fanatic that he don't give a damn about this question of honour and conscience. I can't be proud if my favorite band is stealing from other artists all the time and don't write anything about author they ripped from at the cd cover. They act like it's a own composition in public and make a lot of money with that under the name Scooter. And I think that isn't fair against authors of original tracks and proud fans. If I hear a new Scooter track the first time i'm really fascinated, but when i listen to original songs they ripped this time i can't be proud anymore. The wouldn't be a problem if they would do it just sometimes... But they do it all the time without any break since Jay is in the band! That's not a good development.

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Sunday, June 26th 2005, 4:35pm

Re: About Trance-atlatic

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Quoted from ""Scobom X""


How do you know that?
How can you say that Trance-atlantic is copy of "Out Of Our Lives"?
Have even hear it?


Where did I say that Trance Atlantic is a copy? It isn't exactly the same, but the whole basic idea and basic sounds are ripped and re-created from this track. And another part they ripped is the melody from Safri Duo - Staying Alive. It's obvious that they change everything a little bit in order that nobody can say they copied it. And it's not only Trance Atlantic, the whole album Mind The Gap is based on this concept. This isn't inspiration anymore, that's merciless idea and melody ripping from others.

This is INSPIRATION. If this is copy, the 90% music in the world is copy.

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Sunday, June 26th 2005, 4:50pm

Re: About Trance-atlatic

If only a few people bored with Scooters music why Suavemente doesn't have any good commercial success? Why they don't release Shake That and Suavemente in the U.K. because of to bad promotion results? I think not a few people have doubts about Scooters behaviour and neverending ripp-offs. It's a real problem for future of Scooter. Cause they do it without any respect and recesses again and again. People are bored with that neverending classic remake standard rip-offs. If you always use the same concept it doesn't work anymore someday. And I think people are feeling really sated after all this classic remakes with same concept. They want finally hear own song ideas not new versions of old classic tracks all the time.[/quote]

"Suavemente" and "Shake That!" are absolutely not in Scooter style. These tracks were a kind of experiment.

I don't agree but I respect you for your opinion.
In my opinion Scooter tracks are inspirated on others and it's good.
Trance-atlantic ripp-off of Safri duo? :lol: ok , I will act like I don't hear it...

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Sunday, June 26th 2005, 5:10pm

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Trance-atlantic ripp-off of Safri duo? :lol: ok , I will act like I don't hear it...


It's another ripped part of this track. Of course it's also a little bit changed again but it's definitely the melody from Played Alive. Compare it with melody in Trance Atlantic which is starting around position of 5 minutes.

Played Alive - Safri Duo

EDIT - No MP3 links - please!

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Tuesday, June 28th 2005, 1:55pm

Re: About Trance-atlatic

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Quoted from ""Scobom X""


Trance-atlantic ripp-off of Safri duo? :lol: ok , I will act like I don't hear it...


It's another ripped part of this track. Of course it's also a little bit changed again but it's definitely the melody from Played Alive. Compare it with melody in Trance Atlantic which is starting around position of 5 minutes.

Played Alive - Safri Duo

EDIT - No MP3 links - please!


Ok then go to http://www.juno.co.uk/ and search by yourself for Played Alive Sample.

It's laughable to delete something like that, that wasn't a illegal Mp3 link it was just a sample from juno records webpage. Everyone can download this official and legal from juno records.

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/68629-01.…light=safri+duo

and listen to:

"Played A Live (The Bongo Song)" (original club mix)

@Deleter> there's no way to burke the sad stealing truth :wink:

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Tuesday, June 28th 2005, 4:01pm

Re: About Trance-atlatic

Quoted from ""Pitchshifter""


And not every Scooterfan is so much fanatic that he don't give a damn about this question of honour and conscience. I can't be proud if my favorite band is stealing from other artists all the time and don't write anything about author they ripped from at the cd cover.


Why Scooter should mention about other authors in the booklet? They always mention that when they do cover, if not - it means that the track is made by Scooter like "Trance-atlantic". Almost in every track of other artists I can find parts which are similar to parts of some other track. You know, some parts of melodys in many tracks are similar to melodys of other tracks. It's normal and obvious, but you will call it "rip-off" as I suppose (by the way this way of thinking is really sick - almost every track in the world is "rip-off"! Help...). I repeat this again: "Trance-atlantic" is not copy or "rip-off". It's track totally made by Scooter, inspired by Active Sights cool track "Out Of Our Lives" (some people whose heard both tracks don't even found resemble). There is a difference between "rip-off" and track inspired on other track. If you accept this I think we should come to an understanding. The only difference is that you don't like this. If I wouldn't like this and the whole Scooter situation nowdays, I would stop listen Scooter music. And this is the thing I advice to you. There is a lot of good music. But watch out - many artists like to do tracks inspired on other tracks, and many artists do covers, even ATB and Blank & Jones.
Everybody should stop complain (because it don't change anything) and choose: Listen Scooter or not. And I want to close this topic at this point.
And you Pitchshifter, I think nowdays Scooter just don't fulfil your expectation. You expect something absolutely orginally and different from Scooter. As they don't fulfil your expectation you should choice as I advice you before: listen Scooter or not. Your complaining will never change anything, sorry.

Aha, and about Safri Duo "Played -A- Live". I know this track for very well - the melody is totally different than melody in "Trance-atlantic" - all about this. (Comparing these two songs really make me laugh...]