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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 2:41am

AbSoLuTe WaRnIng

This is the ultimate information about the Catholic church, english version

WARNING 1: IT'S LONG, so take your time, and it has many parts in order to see it faster in slow connections, you'll need to link the 'next' arrow untill you reach the last part...
WARNING 2: IT SHOWS HIDDEN REALITY WITHOUT CENSOR. I hope you will learn a lot.

Link: http://www.chick.com/reading/comics/0112…pages.asp?pg=01
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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 3:08am

Yep, just a few Points why i never join any human religion ( no matter if Catholic, Christian or Buddismn)! 8)
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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 8:55am

I donīt care about religion and I donīt see a sense in reading through 33 pages of this. I read the first one and I must say: booooooring. :(
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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 11:50am

oh no....artwork is back..... :roll:

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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 11:53am

Hm... religion... :)
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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 12:54pm

Artwork? Quick question?

What would it take (in principle) to prove to you that God doesn't exist or that your religion is a false doctrine?

Think about this question carefully. Your answer will say a lot about your faith? Genuine belief or blind dogma?
"In the pressure of the situation, I won't let my tongue get tied
A silent voice in the congregation, I refuse to live a lie"
Angelic - Can't Keep Me Silent

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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 1:15pm

the disscussion refering to :
http://www.scootertechno.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3623&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=195
Young offender, what's your defense?
You're younger than me, obviously
Young offender, how you resent
The lovers you need, it hurts when they bleed
Young offender, why the pretense?
You don't agree, I know, I know

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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 4:08pm

Quoted from ""pjad_uk""

Artwork? Quick question?

What would it take (in principle) to prove to you that God doesn't exist or that your religion is a false doctrine?

It's easy. Less than 100% accurate in every objetive way: Moral, historic, etc

Think about this question carefully. Your answer will say a lot about your faith? Genuine belief or blind dogma?


We are what we preach, and what we praise
All I wanna do is praise the Lord

I wana feel Him, Jesus the only one :D

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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 4:29pm

Quoted from ""Dave From Sheffield""

Hm... religion... :)


Not only religion, i fear
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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 4:45pm

Quoted from ""Artwork""

Quoted from ""pjad_uk""

Artwork? Quick question?

What would it take (in principle) to prove to you that God doesn't exist or that your religion is a false doctrine?

It's easy. Less than 100% accurate in every objetive way: Moral, historic, etc

Think about this question carefully. Your answer will say a lot about your faith? Genuine belief or blind dogma?


We are what we preach, and what we praise


You don't appear to have mastered the art of quoting, Artwork... which isn't helpful.

Unsurprisingly, you're unwilling to give me a straight answer... Or, at the very least, an answer that is even vaguely coherent. Would you care to explain yourself more clearly?
"In the pressure of the situation, I won't let my tongue get tied
A silent voice in the congregation, I refuse to live a lie"
Angelic - Can't Keep Me Silent

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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 4:54pm

Quoted from ""pjad_uk""

Quoted from ""Artwork""

Quoted from ""pjad_uk""

Artwork? Quick question?

What would it take (in principle) to prove to you that God doesn't exist or that your religion is a false doctrine?

It's easy. Less than 100% accurate in every objetive way: Moral, historic, etc

Think about this question carefully. Your answer will say a lot about your faith? Genuine belief or blind dogma?


We are what we preach, and what we praise


You don't appear to have mastered the art of quoting, Artwork... which isn't helpful.

Unsurprisingly, you're unwilling to give me a straight answer... Or, at the very least, an answer that is even vaguely coherent.


You didn't understand that
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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 5:01pm

Quoted from ""Artwork""

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Quoted from ""Artwork""

Quoted from ""pjad_uk""

Artwork? Quick question?

What would it take (in principle) to prove to you that God doesn't exist or that your religion is a false doctrine?

It's easy. Less than 100% accurate in every objetive way: Moral, historic, etc

Think about this question carefully. Your answer will say a lot about your faith? Genuine belief or blind dogma?


We are what we preach, and what we praise


You don't appear to have mastered the art of quoting, Artwork... which isn't helpful.

Unsurprisingly, you're unwilling to give me a straight answer... Or, at the very least, an answer that is even vaguely coherent.


You didn't understand that


Well, only vaguely... If i have understood your position correctly then, i must admit, i find it most questionable.
"In the pressure of the situation, I won't let my tongue get tied
A silent voice in the congregation, I refuse to live a lie"
Angelic - Can't Keep Me Silent

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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 5:17pm

I have answered more than you think, but i can't make people understand. Only the Holy Spirit, and the personal experience of each one
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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 5:28pm

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I have answered more than you think, but i can't make people understand. Only the Holy Spirit, and the personal experience of each one


No, the reason people don't understand you is that you struggle to contruct intelligible sentences. This inability is surely caused by the fact that you use ordinary language to describe that which lies beyond the empirical world.

It doesn't take much thought to realise that any possible super-empirical world is unverifiable from our position within the empirical world and nothing about the nature of the super-empirical can be deduced from empirical premises. That is not to say that God cannot in principle exist but that the existence of anything outside the phenomenal world cannot be demonstrated empirically...

The Holy Spirit is a good example of a metaphysical entity that is beyond any empirical verification.
"In the pressure of the situation, I won't let my tongue get tied
A silent voice in the congregation, I refuse to live a lie"
Angelic - Can't Keep Me Silent

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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 5:35pm

Well, that words were empty (they don't explain what the Bible explains)
But what happens? To believe some facts faith is required, and a faith is supported by facts as well
All I wanna do is praise the Lord

I wana feel Him, Jesus the only one :D

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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 5:50pm

Artwork, you are fanatic, moving in straight direction without looking left or right, without trying to understand ONE SINGLE sentence that someone says to you.

You are closed in your perfect world, where Bible is the only thing to believe and all other beliefs are stupid and non acceptable.

Seems that you don't have ability to give a straight answer, too bad that you are so deeply religious that you lost this ability.

I could write and write for ages what I think about you but it's without sense, because you will not TRY to understand it.

People like you are dangerous.

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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 5:50pm

Quoted from ""Artwork""

Well, that words were empty (they don't explain what the Bible explains)
But what happens? To believe some facts faith is required, and a faith is supported by facts as well


I shall repeat it if you didn't understand... Nothing concerning the nature of the super-empirical can be deduced from empirical premises. Any sentences within the Bible that purport to explain the nature of God cannot be true or false as they lack any possible verification. There can be no metaphysical facts.

The story of Jesus is, in principle, verifiable to some small degree (therefore making it possibly true or false) just as any historical matter is ... however, this is only because the life of Jesus, if it did take place in the way that is described in the Bible, occured as an empirical event. However any statement within the Bible that claims to explain the nature of the super-empirical entity that is 'God', whether it be an utterance of Jesus or not, cannot be demonstrated as true or false. The Bible itself is an empirical entity and therefore it can reveal nothing about anything that lies beyond this world.

Faith is about belief ... not about facts.
"In the pressure of the situation, I won't let my tongue get tied
A silent voice in the congregation, I refuse to live a lie"
Angelic - Can't Keep Me Silent

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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 5:51pm

@Artwork, Surely by now you must have got the picture that people are getting fead up with you preaching on the forum :!:

When you arn't talking about god and religion on the forum you have some good things to say

So perhaps it's time you gave it a rest :!:

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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 5:52pm

Quoted from ""Zick Z. Zordan""

Artwork, you are fanatic, moving in straight direction without looking left or right, without trying to understand ONE SINGLE sentence that someone says to you.

You are closed in your perfect world, where Bible is the only thing to believe and all other beliefs are stupid and non acceptable.

Seems that you don't have ability to give a straight answer, too bad that you are so deeply religious that you lost this ability.

I could write and write for ages what I think about you but it's without sense, because you will not TRY to understand it.

People like you are dangerous.


I am dangerous for the world!! Yoohoo! :D :D :D :D
All I wanna do is praise the Lord

I wana feel Him, Jesus the only one :D

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Sunday, April 17th 2005, 5:58pm

Quoted from ""pjad_uk""

Quoted from ""Artwork""

Well, that words were empty (they don't explain what the Bible explains)
But what happens? To believe some facts faith is required, and a faith is supported by facts as well


I shall repeat it if you didn't understand... Nothing concerning the nature of the super-empirical can be deduced from empirical premises. Any sentences within the Bible that purport to explain the nature of God cannot be true or false as they lack any possible verification. There can be no metaphysical facts.

The story of Jesus is, in principle, verifiable to some small degree (therefore making it possibly true or false) just as any historical matter is ... however, this is only because the life of Jesus, if it did take place in the way that is described in the Bible, occured as an empirical event. However any statement within the Bible that claims to explain the nature of the super-empirical entity that is 'God', whether it be an utterance of Jesus or not, cannot be demonstrated as true or false. The Bible itself is an empirical entity and therefore it can reveal nothing about anything that lies beyond this world.

Faith is about belief ... not about facts.


You don't know the sentence that says "Faith must be proven by facts".
The empirical law of Action (facts) and Reaction (faith), or vice versa.
That means you cannot split a belief and a way of life
All I wanna do is praise the Lord

I wana feel Him, Jesus the only one :D