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Saturday, October 9th 2004, 6:05pm

SHAKE THAT Niederlande!

So sieht die Single in den Niederlanden aus:
(Netherland Tracklist SHAKE THAT)

01. Radio Edit 03:18
02. Extended 05:03
03. Klubbheads Grossraum Mix 05:52
04. Klubbheads Klubb Dubb 04:15
05. Steve Murano Mix 06:15
06. CJ Stone Mix 06:36
07. Clubmix 05:28
08. Suffix 2:55
09. Hyper Hyper - Special Live Version 06:14

Da frage ich mich wieso macht man das nicht auch in Deutschland so? Dazu fällt mir echt nur noch Abzocke ein... Sorry Scooter, aber wenn man schon so treue Fans hat sollte man die nicht noch ausnutzen!

Und wenn die Nummer dadurch höher in die Deutschen Charts gehen soll, dann sollte man wenigstens richtig Bonus drauf packen auf die Limited Edition. Damit sich dieser Kauf auch lohnt.

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Saturday, October 9th 2004, 10:12pm

Das Gerücht mit einer Begrenzung der Tracks oder der Spielzeit auf Maxi CD's in Deutschland ist wohl auch Quatsch...

Da kann man mir erzählen was man will, aber die Shake That Limited ist eindeutig Abzocke...

Obwohl ich ja selbst zu den blöden gehöre die beide CD's gekauft haben, aber das werde ich mir in Zukunft gut überlegen wenn das genauso sein wird.

http://www.rammstein.de/Band/Discography…_so_gut_98/ende

http://www.rammstein.de/Band/Discography…es/Amerika/ende

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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 1:27am

why dont you just buy the dutch release through the internet?

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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 1:32am

i dont understand what you saying but... i want buy more then 1 Shake that NL and trade them with the german versions ;)
Tomorrowland was great !! 8)

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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 1:35am

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why dont you just buy the dutch release through the internet?


Cause it's too late! I didn't know that there will be all tracks on 1 cd :(

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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 1:38am

that would make this person happy . he wants to have the 9 tracks maxi cd also released in germany and not only in the netherlands . i agree with this person ,but if the goverment sais that there is a limited amount of time alowed on a cd and maxi cd single then ......what can scooter do?so that is why they made the 2 singles for germany just to give them all the songs also . in holland you can buy maxi-singles up to 20 minutes or so ,so in holland they can make a bigger single.

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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 1:39am

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why dont you just buy the dutch release through the internet?


Cause it's too late! I didn't know that there will be all tracks on 1 cd :(


you already bought them?

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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 1:43am

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but if the goverment sais that there is a limited amount of time alowed on a cd and maxi cd single then ......what can scooter do?so that is why they made the 2 singles for germany just to give them all the songs also . in holland you can buy maxi-singles up to 20 minutes or so ,so in holland they can make a bigger single.


But that's not true! Other artists also released Maxi cd's with more tracks and length here in Germany:

http://www.rammstein.com/Band/Discograph…_so_gut_98/ende

http://www.rammstein.com/Band/Discograph…es/Amerika/ende

Yes, of course I've already bought them!

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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 1:50am

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but if the goverment sais that there is a limited amount of time alowed on a cd and maxi cd single then ......what can scooter do?so that is why they made the 2 singles for germany just to give them all the songs also . in holland you can buy maxi-singles up to 20 minutes or so ,so in holland they can make a bigger single.


But that's not true! Other artists also released Maxi cd's with more tracks and length here in Germany:

http://www.rammstein.com/Band/Discograph…_so_gut_98/ende

http://www.rammstein.com/Band/Discograph…es/Amerika/ende



:? :? :? :? :? then WHY?????? i dont understand that anymore. why do they do that then?could it be that some people only can buy a maxi-single for a little less prise ? so thats why they split it in half?i hope that´s the reason. this would confuse me verry much otherwise. :?

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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 1:56am

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:? :? :? :? :? then WHY?????? i dont understand that anymore. why do they do that then?could it be that some people only can buy a maxi-single for a little less prise ? so thats why they split it in half?i hope that´s the reason. this would confuse me verry much otherwise. :?


Cause record company and management knows that fans want to have all stuff. And so most of them buy the single twice.... That's the reason about my annoyance!

And that's the reason to do this:

> Better German chart entry (cause many fans buy twice)
> More sales > More money

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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 1:58am

i still would like to see them just giving to whole world the same cds instead of this land this, and that land that. i want limited editions here also but somehow we dont even get the maria cd with the videoclip on it. :cry: and well i think the hearbook will never come here aswell.and the mind the gap limited edition wont come here either so .........i think there is plenty enough that you in germany have more then we in holland.that doesnt mean i dont feel sorry for you .i would like to see that every fan can buy everything they want from scooter,but if they just would release the same cds everywhere.................somehow everytime there is a new cd out people can never get just that........you always have to buy double cd s just to get al the songs .......that is weird.and not right.people must get the same all over the globe . thats right.

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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 1:59am

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:? :? :? :? :? then WHY?????? i dont understand that anymore. why do they do that then?could it be that some people only can buy a maxi-single for a little less prise ? so thats why they split it in half?i hope that´s the reason. this would confuse me verry much otherwise. :?


Cause record company and management knows that fans want to have all stuff. And so most of them buy the single twice.... That's the reason about my annoyance!

And that's the reason to do this:

> Better German chart entry (cause many fans buy twice)
> More sales > More money



:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: i hope not. i hope its not the reason

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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 2:01am

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:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: i hope not. i hope its not the reason


There is no other useful sense to do that! Which one? It isn't really a bonus for fans when they get shared stuff on 2 cd's if it's possible to put all stuff on 1 cd!

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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 2:03am

you are so right . i know that . i just wish you were not right. :cry:

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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 2:07am

I like Scooter very much, but that's not nice... If there's really great bonus stuff on a Limited it's ok. But this time remixes only shared on 2 cd's to be able to sell a Limited...

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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 2:10am

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I like Scooter very much, but that's not nice... If there's really great bonus stuff on a Limited it's ok. But this time remixes only shared on 2 cd's to be able to sell a Limited...



and the most fans live in germany :cry: i feel sorry for the german posse. :cry:

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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 2:17am

And then record labels surprised that so many people download illegal MP3's! I must say sometimes I really understand why people do this...

If record label or artists rip-off people with those simulated bonus CDs it's understandable that people rip-off record labels/artists sometime...

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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 2:32am

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And then record labels surprised that so many people download illegal MP3's! I must say sometimes I really understand why people do this...

If record label or artists rip-off people with those Limited CDs it's understandable that people rip-off record labels/artists sometime...


yeah...............thats why they better make one cd for everybody so everybody is happy everywhere. there are some albums aswell that have tracks that are the same on other albums .its so difficult to see what you must buy then to get everything one time....you dont want an album with tracks that you already have on another album.(and i did buy that............i have encore and 24 karat gold..........but one is live and the other is normal)
in this single mather the basic thing you buy the cd for(the single) will be double if you buy both and that s***s :cry:

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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 3:59am

Ich habe ein altes Interview von 2001 gefunden, wahrscheinlich gibt es doch eine Begrenzung:

http://www.mucke-und-mehr.de/magint/pitchfor.htm

MUM: Wieso veröffentlicht ihr die "Existence" auf zwei Maxi-CDs, anstatt alle Mixe auf eine zu packen?

JJ: Das hätten wir nicht gedurft, das wäre zu lang geworden für eine Maxi.

MUM: Wegen der Begrenzung auf fünf Tracks und 21 Minuten, bei deren Überschreitung man zusätzliche Kosten hat.

Allerdings wäre das wenn dies stimmt trotzdem möglich gewesen alle auf einer Cd zu veröffentlichen. Siehe Rammstein, bei denen geht das ja komischer Weise auch! Die neue Single Amerika hat 34:49 Spielzeit und 8 Tracks! Kostet den Künstler/Plattenfirma dann wahrscheinlich nur etwas mehr!

Warum zahlen Scooter dann nicht auch was drauf und machen alles auf eine? Bei den andern geht das ja auch...

Blank&Jones Perfect Silence Single:

Perfect Silence (Short Cut) (3:22 min.)
Perfect Silence (Club Mix) (7:46 min.)
Perfect Silence (Martin Roth Hardtrance RMX) (6:21 min.)
Perfect Silence (Original Mix) (7:16 min.)
Perfect Silence (Perry O'Neil RMX) (8:36 min.)
Perfect Silence (Martin Roth St. Kilda 5 PM RMX) (6:00 min.)

6 Titel und 38:41 Minuten!

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Monday, October 11th 2004, 12:20am

i agree if you see the other artists making large single cd´s ,you expect scooter to do the same .only they know why they don´t (well the record compagnie does).it sounds a lot like george michael and sony. the record compagny also wanted to make more money from the cds so george michael went to court. he has another record compagny now (just like jay).