Baxxter: i wouldnt call it creativity. its only about a continuous beat with a moment of total silence and the subsequent reinstating loudness.
air force sirenes are also a popular effect. its always about the contrast. loud/quiet). fast/slow. hard/soft. initially this has nothing to do with creativity.
Oehlen: i for one associate rave and techno music with running through. when the machine is turned on it should run through to engender some kind of trance. with you there are always these interruptions, then the snare-staccato, thunder or this sirene. this is a contradiction to what you normally expect from techno, isnt it?
Baxxter: scooter tried all along to get a whole rave night into 3 minutes and 30 seconds. i'd even say that we copy the structure of pop songs. there is always an intro, verses and refrains. is this such an effect too?
Oehlen: for example i thought of pointing at the people and roaring at them in stroboscope light?
Baxxter: this works on our shows. always. what works too is blowing up some pyro, namely at best in the moment of silence. i always forsee that: now they gonna put their hands up in the air. unalike more difficult is to get such effects to work in singles or an album. not for nothing there are so many one hit wonders. they succeeded one time in creating an effect by accident and they dont know how to reproduce it. there is never a guarantee of success with cd releases. or apart from those with a recognizable voice.
Oehlen: i know this issue too. i often worked with slogans, inspired by you, which i put into my paintings. my biggest hit was "Hallelu9".
Baxxter: The KLF often worked with paradoxons as well. one of their hits was "dont take five".
Oehlen: oh yeah, this is genious and absurd doubly. in the original by dave brubeck there isnt meant "take five" but "recording number five".
Baxxter: i never realized that.
Oehlen: do you feel obligated to make something new all along?
Baxxter: we just put away all our studio equipment which we can creat very special sounds with and bought new sequencers and synthesizers. we made ourselves move away from safe terrain.
Oehlen: interessting. this is methodical acting which i often demand from my students: sometimes they had to check their stuff. every brush, every canvas they utilized had to be questioned. its also about wheather one buy the same stuff again. when there are such automatisms the paintings get very familiar unintentially. but if one force oneself to work with totally new equipment one is forced to react to this equipment. by that you get aware of your own behaviour.
Baxxter: its so easy to become complacent and fall into routine. its deadly to take the same sound like with the last track and only to change the melody. in such case there is no progress. lately i was to ibiza again after a long time. i was shocked how the music changed. this reminded me of our duty to connect this with ourselves. when there is a new sound everyone has to use it within a certain timeframe. if you dont, you are retired. if you use this sound too late, you are retired as well.
Oehlen: do you ask yourself how something becomes scooter if you avail yourself with others?
Baxxter: theres a scooter slogan "Transforming the tunes". this means: we take something and transform it to scooter.
Oehlen: can it be that you musicians take it very easy with copyright issues?
Baxxter: what has the sound of a bassdrum to do with copyright? there is rather anger if one steal melodies or harmony sequences. but when these people complain about copyright i ask myself: you stole it somewhere too. theres no innovativeness any more after all. sampling is only another word for cut&paste. stealing & self-service is normal in our business.
Oehlen: the ordinary imagination takes the artist for a complex person who looks for expression for his thoughts and feelings. you rather represent the opposite. you are someone who runs after the perfect track. it succeed at least once with "hyper hyper".
Baxxter: this song contains all the ingredients we spoke about: the break, the silence, the harmonies, that engender goosebumps, the commanding tone, the loudness. this is an ideal case and unfortunately not reproducable. by the way, the original mix had the lenght of more than five minutes. i'm sure this wouldnt work if we hadnt shortened it.
Oehlen: its very conspicuous that you always refer to the posse but not the listener as an individual.
Es ist auffällig, dass ihr euch immer an eine Masse wendet und nicht an den einzelnen Hörer.
Baxxter: when we werent famous yet we mixied in some stadium applause in our track "hyperHyper".
Oehlen: the suggested screaming posse uses effects leni riefenstahl also knew to work with. you play with it.
Baxxter: rave parties arent nothing but real hordes. the experience when you loose your individuality and flourish within the posse is unique. the way to an industry house where raveParties took place itself was coined of pleasant anticipation. from afar one could feel the bassdrum in your knot and there was this imagination: as soon as i'm in, the roof will take off. the vocals of hyperHyper refer to this kind of experiences, not to speeches of h1tler.
Oehlen: i initiated this meeting because i'm interessted in the question of the total loose of sense and the issue of surfaces. the lyrics of hyperHyper are pure nonsense. its about dissolution of any sense. i noticed: the contactings with reduced tools, this is tourists language of someone who got very far away. however i must think of a journey.
Baxxter: the whoop "hyper hyper" is genious because it is being understood nearly everywhere, from singapur, china, brazil, to europe and egypt. by the way: there are lyrics only for the fact that there have to be some. pople react to voice, not to the music underneath. there are only a few instrumentals which reached the top of the charts.
Oehlen: the slogans of scooter work like retardation tools. the mind is being given away on the checkout and the show may begin.
Baxxter: for example there is someone in the crowd who has problems and thinks too muses too much of them. for this species of human the opportunity to give away the brain and just make some party may be an essential advantage. too much musing makes the people cumbly.
Oehlen: have you been to the carnival in cologne already?
Baxxter: no, as someone from the north i dont comprehend this facing.
Oehlen: forget about what you have seen on TV. this is horrible. its about a shortcut of total stupidity and zen like serenity. the really good tracks combined wisdom and nonsense to perfection, so that one cant differ any more. i think of "Wir lassen den Dom in Köln, denn da gehört er hin / Was soll er auch woanders, das macht doch keinen Sinn." .. that makes on loose the feeling for time too.
Baxxter: genious.
Oehlen: i think the scooter slogans should work familiar.
Baxxter:i think the same way , but not negatively.
Oehlen: it is neither supposed to be a negative remark.
Baxxter: when we let the loudness go and i scream "how much is the fish" the people cannot understand it anymore. they only can get with it.
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(May 31st 2004, 1:10pm)
Very massive thanks for your translation 
