Where's the "MC" H.P. Baxxter?!

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Imre -SP-

aka. DJ Flatline

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Location: Budapest / Hungary

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Wednesday, December 15th 2010, 10:44am

Where's the "MC" H.P. Baxxter?!

Oh yeah, nothing like a nice cup of whining on a wednesday morning

I've been reading the reports and comments about the Stuff The Turkey tour, and I'm sorry to say that I'm beyond disappointed. What happened to the Radical MC H.P.?? I saw a lot of video footage from old tours back in the 90s, even festival gigs... he added so much to the show by those improvised lyrical phrases. Look at Habanera on the Encore DVD. So much better than the album version with those few added lines! I remember my first concert in 2002, he dropped a few lines on Greatest Beats, that was so nice to hear! Or the footage from 1997 where he put lyrics on Back In Time. Pure awesomeness that was.

And now?

"Are you ready to rock? ...kick some ass? ...hardcore techno music?"
"Dedicated to you ... you are the Posse!"

Nothing else. The same exact phrases on _every_ _fscking_ _concert_. This has got to be a very bad joke. It's like he's holding himself to a pre-written script that every show has to align to. This is not and MC, this is an actor.

Look what's going on. A bloke buys the "Live In Hamburg" DVD in May 2010, and in December he gets exactly the same stuff. Same tracklist, same visuals, even with the same phrases between tracks. I'm so disappointed that they came to this when it comes to "LIVE" apprearances. One of the things that kept me listening to them was H.P. 's lyrical talent - the extraordinary lyrical twist he put in the album tracks. After 17 years he still writes awesome lines on the songs, why can't he do the same on concerts? Just a few lines would be enough to shake up the whole feeling.
Now I'd never leave them because of this, but it makes me a bit sad, you know...

For the fanatics of the forum: I know you can explain everything, and you could even twist my words to say that this whole thing is good as is, but please! Don't make total idiots of yourselves by writing bullsh1t. There's no excuse for this. This is utter laziness.

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AlexKing

Intermediate

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Location: Moscow, Russia

Wednesday, December 15th 2010, 11:06am

Hard to say, but of course you are right. He's an actor, but sometimes he plays his role so bad, that possible to see he takes no interest in what he is doing. This was happened many years ago, it wasn't 2010.

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Imre -SP-

aka. DJ Flatline

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Location: Budapest / Hungary

Occupation: owner of Scootertechno Hungary

Wednesday, December 15th 2010, 11:13am

I have no doubt he IS enjoying what he's doing

He's so energetic on stage, that's why I don't know why he dropped the "real" MC thing.

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AlexKing

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Wednesday, December 15th 2010, 11:17am

He enjoys the crowd and so on. Things differ.

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Scooterworld

a.k.a. Edgar ® ------------ "When I say E, you say Z"

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Wednesday, December 15th 2010, 11:22am

It's true. I also noticed that almost every concert is almost according to a sort of pre-written script. He in the past added far more "new" stuff in between songs, or even in songs. But occasionally he still does "Surfing Bird", like in Berlin on the IFA open-air this summer. And in Bremen he made 'advertisement' for the huge gig in Hamburg 2011 in the form of "You'd better be there !

", something he didn;t do in Stuttgart for example..... but the fact they don't play many instrumentals on concerts, and when they do, it's in HP's breaks...which in the end doesn't give much opportunities to improvise lyrics. But he could do some more stuff in between the tracks maybe ....... hard to say really..........
But this tour he really highly enjoyed the concerts, one could see that :thumbup:

He had so much energy :thumbsup:

H.P.'s "The Voice" - "The Myth" > He stands out all above the rest, blonder than the best!

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May<3

Unregistered

Wednesday, December 15th 2010, 1:35pm

KInda having two different discussions going on simultaneously so I'm finding it challenging to put what I want to say into words.

First of all;

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I know you can explain everything

Since when have the fanatical segment of the community been able to rationally explain anything? Don't give credit where it's not due, Imre. God.

I saw some of the Stuff The Turkey tour videos and his repetitious shouts intermittently between songs - but didn't really think anything of it at the time. Now that you mention it, I suppose it is kinda lazy that he no longer improvises in the moment. And being that they usually drink and that beforehand, you expect to hear all sorts of original randomness that could potentially make the live experience more exciting. I know if I was on stage and buzzed like they usually get themselves in the preparation phase I'd naturally shake things up a little. The only explanation is that H.P. has a made a decision not to bother with it any more. Perhaps he finds it the concerts and songs more enjoyable the more faithfully the track is performed.

,

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kriszti @ scooter

Video Game Addict

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Location: ...and back to HUNGARY! Once again!

Wednesday, December 15th 2010, 3:02pm

I agree with Imre.
The crew got totally lazy and commercial in the last 2 years. After JAOTW's success, they thought they can make success with anything. In the charts it seems it's true with UTROTT, but it's a fact that a high percent of real fans who want the real Scooter to come back, also bought the album and that brang them to the charts. Also they are hard trend followers so they rip too much well-known melodies. The 12 tracks on UTROTT all sampled other melodies. HP says in interviews that it's all right because people buy their albums and they are successful. When an interviewer asks HP about his favourite Scooter albums, his answer is full of albums which charted on #1 or #2. But nothing which is not so successful. Always the well-charted songs are the most overplayed.
And the concerts are really not live. No live parts, always the same tracklist, and WHAT THE F'UCK DOES A LAPTOP DO ON A GIG??? :cursing:

I also agree about the fanatic thing. So annoying.
It's horrible. Most likely, they still have their creativity, but they don't want to use it. And I hope someone from their crew will read this topic.

Feel the energy inside!

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ROCHEN

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Wednesday, December 15th 2010, 3:05pm

YMMD, kriszti

rick actually has got ableton live or logic runnin on his laptop (if its not pure show).

#yesThisIsDawg

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Imre -SP-

aka. DJ Flatline

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Wednesday, December 15th 2010, 3:12pm

Quoted from "ROCHEN"

YMMD, kriszti rick actually has got ableton live or logic runnin on his laptop (if its not pure show).

Yeah, it's for pressing the PLAY button

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ROCHEN

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Wednesday, December 15th 2010, 3:33pm

exactly

... its a shame they guys dont play live anymore.
obviously they avoid any risk factors which could endanger their success

#yesThisIsDawg

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Bjarke

trololo

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Location: Shandong, China

Wednesday, December 15th 2010, 3:41pm

alright everybody, I'm officially joining the whining choir.

One of the things I liked a lot about Encore was the lyrics in R U :-) H.P.'s MC stuff during that track raises its quality a lot. Also, the silly stuff between tracks has worsened.

If the stadium techno inferno is going to be Scooter's biggest concert ever, why not let it be the concert with the most ever live parts?

I'm also joining the whining choir in the Imre's other whining topic.

However, I'm defo waiting eagerly for spring :thumbsup:

disregard sleep - acquire tea

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May<3

Unregistered

Wednesday, December 15th 2010, 4:02pm

It's not whining....

Unless you're looking up the word in the fanatics dictionary.

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Bjarke

trololo

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Location: Shandong, China

Wednesday, December 15th 2010, 4:36pm

Quoted from "May<3"

It's not whining....

Unless you're looking up the word in the fanatics dictionary.

in a sense it is - complaining is sometimes referred to as whining

disregard sleep - acquire tea

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May<3

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Wednesday, December 15th 2010, 4:46pm

whine (hw<img src="http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/imacr.gif" align="absbottom" />n, w<img src="http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/imacr.gif" align="absbottom" />n)
v. whined, whin·ing, whines
v.intr.
1. To utter a plaintive, high-pitched, protracted sound, as in pain, fear, supplication, or complaint.
2. To complain or protest in a childish fashion.
3. To produce a sustained noise of relatively high pitch: jet engines whining.
v.tr.
To utter with a whine.
n.
1. The act of whining.
2. A whining sound.
3. A complaint uttered in a plaintive tone.

No - I don't think it's any of those things.

And complaining? Are you serious?

It's purely just a dose of criticism.

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Imre -SP-

aka. DJ Flatline

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Wednesday, December 15th 2010, 4:53pm

Yeah, but actually, I _did_ complain about the quality of live shows

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May<3

Unregistered

Wednesday, December 15th 2010, 4:56pm

Except "complaining" and "whining" aren't synonyms. They're two entirely different things - so therefore shouldn't be used interchangeably.

Oh dear..

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The Ejaculator

Kelvo fan club

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Wednesday, December 15th 2010, 5:00pm

I did notice the lack of originality between tracks. In fact it was exactly the same as on the Hamburg DVD as a couple of us were "HPing" along as we knew exactly what was coming next.

Personal opinion is so what, yes, it would be great if he had meaningful discussions between each track but does anybody actually care? I just keep myself amused wondering what lyrics he will forget next as it usually happens a few times each show.

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

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Scooterworld

a.k.a. Edgar ® ------------ "When I say E, you say Z"

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Wednesday, December 15th 2010, 5:51pm

Quoted from "The Ejaculator"

I just keep myself amused wondering what lyrics he will forget next as it usually happens a few times each show.

Hahaha

....actually HP's lyrics were quite ok this time

H.P.'s "The Voice" - "The Myth" > He stands out all above the rest, blonder than the best!

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The-Flying-Dutchman

Unregistered

Thursday, December 16th 2010, 5:03pm

In my opinion scooter started to change this way after releasing TQIWITQ as it was a hit as the Album JAOTW was. Since this time they changed in my opinion. It seems they get more and more disinterested to their fans.
Since the UTROTT Album my interest in scooter became smaller as I started to realise what cheap way they choosed to produce a new album for their so called "Fans"
I am feeling a bit pranked since UTROTT

Since the beginning of beeing a fan of scooter I knew that scooter is kind of a cover band with many many influences from other artists but what they did with the UTROTT - Album is a bit lousy. I still love this album but it seems scooter had almost no work in recording and producing this album due to the many "covers". It is a bit respectless what they did to Technoboy. UTROTT seems to be produced in a rush, without own ideas having only the sales in mind.

Although the latest concerts have been planned very very very well (and I mean this in a negativ way) I loved the UTROTT Tour!

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Xer

Master

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Location: Israel

Thursday, December 16th 2010, 8:55pm

Maybe he just doesn't want to take the risk of forgetting (confusing) the lyrics.
It's one thing to mix up lyrics on a not recorded concert,but on a recorded gig-it is different,maybe he has some trauma from Hamburg 2010 DVD when he confused the lyrics one time too many-and decided to stick to the script for a while and see how it goes.

But yes,H.P's MCing/adding lyrics to existing ones or to instrumentals are what make the live stuff so special.

TURN UP THE BLASTER,
AND HEAR THE SHOUTS OF BAXXTER

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