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Wednesday, March 31st 2010, 12:51pm

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but one thing is sure -> we will get a new album :thumbsup:
And that's the most important thing :D
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Wednesday, March 31st 2010, 1:44pm

I do wonder what style it will be... do we think more Hardstyle, back to jumpstyle, or happy hardcore stuff?

I would like to see one thing: Scooter gone "Electro House", for at least one song. Among other genres, I'm a huge fan of electro house, and seeing HP's vocals over something like that would be very interesting, a bit like "Take Me Baby"/

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1463523-02-01-01.mp3


This is a sample of a very famous Electro House song, Ghosts N' Stuff by Deadmau5.

Also, note Electro house is NOT electro, unlike that really weird remix of TSAMH we got.
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Wednesday, March 31st 2010, 2:47pm

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Quoted from "Scooterworld"

but one thing is sure -> we will get a new album :thumbsup:
And that's the most important thing :D

Haha, I was thinking of writing those exact words. :D

@Steve C -- indeed, I should have mentioned TUAO and JAOTW too, but I didn't mention them because many people think JAOTW is the worst album, and I wanted a good example of how great stuff can be done in short time. :D But granted, JAOTW is one of their most (if not the most?) successful albums, done in very short time.

As Scooterworld said, it's all about ideas flowing. And even if HP didn't say what style the new album will be, I'm sure they still have different ideas they're going to try -- and they clearly have the drive again, otherwise they would be taking holidays, but rather they're hitting the studio again. The more experimentation the better, I'd like something very mixed. :D (And once again, a summer hit, which I hope every year...)
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Wednesday, March 31st 2010, 6:00pm

I think (wishful thinking ;) ) more chances of own tracks in new album,because I don't see any new style make a break in the next couple of months that Scooter supposably would need for a new album (if they want to make one by the end of the year)

I think Scooter will make the new album on a small flame because they would need the time to check where the wind blows regarding a new style.

What I want to say is this: If Scooter release new album soon-more chances of own ideas, if Scooter album will be in a 1 year+ time- more chances of ripping the next popular style.
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Monday, April 5th 2010, 12:33am

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As Scooterworld said, it's all about ideas flowing. And even if HP didn't say what style the new album will be, I'm sure they still have different ideas they're going to try -- and they clearly have the drive again, otherwise they would be taking holidays, but rather they're hitting the studio again. The more experimentation the better, I'd like something very mixed. :D (And once again, a summer hit, which I hope every year...)
I've noticed that they're becoming more and more unpredictable as of late. I was ruminating over their direction since Jumping All Over The World the other night, and it's amazing how weirdly they've been progressing since that album. I think it's safe to say that the whole borrowing and experimentation efforts became apparent upon the release of the questionable Sheffield-- which we all know hasn't been a favorite for the guys. It was such a mess in terms of any theme that it's bizarre how people continue to put it on a pedestal. Let's face it, it was a directionless mess! Although, saying that, TUAO was pretty much spontaneous and lacking any real thought behind it, but that turned out surprisingly okay. I guess that's just an exception.


Anyway, it became apparent to me that JAOTW kick started a new trend in itself. Both UTROTT and JAOTW have a prominent theme in all their tracks, and you can quite easily hear the similarities in all of them. Not so much that they all sound the same, but I'd say enough to notice that they belong on the same album. One of the things that a former forum member on here noticed a few years ago about a bunch of Scooters albums was that they've been lacking that bond that's present on the two aforementioned records, and others way before it. Mind The Gap and Who's Got The Last Laugh Now? are perfect examples that he himself used to highlight this formally recurrent trend of them placing 12 tracks on a CD that don't really appear to be unique or have any particular genre that you can pin on them. He went as far to say that you could swap a few tracks from MTG and WGTLLN and you wouldn't really notice the difference, as they're generically and musically the same, but in a distinct way.


The last two albums though have taken a fairly popular genre that's buzzing in the dance scene and produced an album around that. So if they're continuing to monitor the trends in the mainstream or underground scene this time, I wouldn't know what to expect. Perhaps someone with some musical insight could fill me in on what's possible? And even then, we still have no idea what they plan to do. Maybe this is just another tradition that's bound to be broken at some point. I'm sure someone else on here has noticed this without me realizing.


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What I want to say is this: If Scooter release new album soon-more chances of own ideas, if Scooter album will be in a 1 year+ time- more chances of ripping the next popular style.
Yeah. This pretty much touches on what I've just said, so I'm at a loss as to know at this point what we can expect from them. If they decide to go by this new tradition that a couple of people have picked up on, then I'm presuming it'll be a style that has generated quite a lot of popularity as of late.


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It's all about the ideas. One can work 2 year's on an album, and it will end up worse than an album that's made in 6 months, when one hasn't got the right ideas.
I know for a fact that this is one of the many issues to come up around Scooter, as the interview with them after the completion of TUAO raised quite a few internal alarm bells about the manner in which they release their albums. To quote this expertly written article;


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But in an interview to mark the release of their most recent album, The Ultimate Aural Orgasm, the band admit that they only spent 3 months working on actual tracks for the album. To me, this is scandalous. They even admit they are lazy and spend 2 weeks messing around and dossing. And when asked, when do you know when the album is finished?... their response? The product manager tells us to finish!! So initially they'll spend about 4 hours a day on the album and then when the "finishing date" comes closer they'll start spending 16 odd hours a day trying desperately to get it finished.
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That doesn't sound like an environment where you can comfortably formulate a decent album. On the contrary, even with a few ideas, spending a year or a couple years on a new record sounds more workable than the stressful atmosphere that they admittedly operate under. As much as it pains me to admit, as I myself love the new album roughly every year trend that they've had going for years, it would make more sense to wait a bit to produce something that a wider audience can embrace peacefully. Whatever we say though is evidently tainted by our absolute dedication to them. So we have the tendency to like their music more than others, and we don't have to be mindless fanatics to concede that obvious truth. What they need is an album that appeals to a great percentage of potential listeners. You've already seen them alienate quite a few people with their methods for production over the past five or so years... They should consider taking this into account. I guess it depends on their musical objectives in the end.

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Monday, April 5th 2010, 12:44am

I agree with May :thumbsup:

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The last two albums though have taken a fairly popular genre that's buzzing in the dance scene and produced an album around that. So if they're continuing to monitor the trends in the mainstream or underground scene this time, I wouldn't know what to expect. Perhaps someone with some musical insight could fill me in on what's possible? And even then, we still have no idea what they plan to do. Maybe this is just another tradition that's bound to be broken at some point. I'm sure someone else on here has noticed this without me realizing.

I noticed this, too and had the prescience that Scooter would do hardstyle (after JAOTW) and feared they mix it with melbourne shuffle. I was right...
And I fear they choose house/electro as the next style...
god please protect us for a Scooter-electro-house album!

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Monday, April 5th 2010, 1:01am

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I agree with May :thumbsup:

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The last two albums though have taken a fairly popular genre that's buzzing in the dance scene and produced an album around that. So if they're continuing to monitor the trends in the mainstream or underground scene this time, I wouldn't know what to expect. Perhaps someone with some musical insight could fill me in on what's possible? And even then, we still have no idea what they plan to do. Maybe this is just another tradition that's bound to be broken at some point. I'm sure someone else on here has noticed this without me realizing.

I noticed this, too and had the prescience that Scooter would do hardstyle (after JAOTW) and feared they mix it with melbourne shuffle. I was right...
And I fear they choose house/electro as the next style...
god please protect us for a Scooter-electro-house album!
I never said a whole album, that IMO would indeed be a disaster ;)

But one song which is different from all the rest, like "Second Skin" on UTROTT would be fun.
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Monday, April 5th 2010, 1:33am

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And I fear they choose house/electro as the next style...
god please protect us for a Scooter-electro-house album!
I'm not a psychic.. but that will never happen. :P
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Monday, April 5th 2010, 6:30am

I hope they'll make a happy album for their next album. I tend to prefer these albums, like JAOTW or Wicked. I think sometimes it's hard to take them seriously if HPs shouting nonsensical lyrics in their more serious songs, like Weekend or J'adore Hardcore. At least for songs like Move Your Ass or TQIWITQ, you know it's all in fun so it's easier to stomach lines like 'It's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice'.



I don't really care how long it takes them to make an album, just as long as what's finally released is of high quality. Honestly, to me, UTROTT doesn't sound like it had a year's worth of effort put into it. There's scarsely an original melody in there. I think maybe because Scooter have been less familair with the last two styles, they've decided to rip more. Mind you they kept up the same style all throughout the entire 3rd chapter and the level of ripping basically stayed the same in those albums. If they go back to Happy Hardcore or something, maybe they'll be more at home and could produce a really fine, mostly original album. Perhaps they could even make happy hardcore good again :thumbsup:



A few people have said they wouldn't like the idea of an electro-house album. I have to say that I think Scooter could make a thoroughly good electro-house album. Just look at the quality of tracks like Lass Uns Tanzen (and 3 tage wach!), Te Quireo, UFO Phenomena and most recently PUCK.

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Monday, April 5th 2010, 10:55am

I don't think scooter will make a house/electro album but it is always a possibility. I am sure if scooter decided to make an album in whatever style I would like it. Hopefully they will make a happy hardcore album that would be awesome but with scooter I have no idea what to expect at all . ;)

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Monday, April 5th 2010, 1:46pm

As we all know, whatever style Scooter is using, they always manage to turn that style into a Scooterish version.
There's jumpstyle, and there's Scooter-jump.
Hardstyle - Scooter-hardstyle.
Etc. :P

So if they make the next one in house/electro-style, whatever good or bad, it will be a Scooter-house/electro-style.
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Monday, April 5th 2010, 2:03pm

I really hope trance gets trendy again and they will produce a trance theme album. :D I can't stand another jump/hpv album.

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Monday, April 5th 2010, 2:49pm

Yeah, some hard trance tracks would be good :D
And this time I'd like to hear more singing tracks (at least 3 fast tracks, not only with HP) and understandable lyrics.
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Monday, April 5th 2010, 2:51pm


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I hope they'll make a happy album for their next album. I tend to prefer these albums, like JAOTW or Wicked. I think sometimes it's hard to take them seriously if HPs shouting nonsensical lyrics in their more serious songs, like Weekend or J'adore Hardcore. At least for songs like Move Your Ass or TQIWITQ, you know it's all in fun so it's easier to stomach lines like 'It's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice'.
HP's lyrics are paramount to the quality of their tracks because he always manages to add that extra bit of oomph. It's his nonsensical lyrics that actually fit perfectly to the rhythm, adding this inputed dimension that only elates its awesomeness. I can no longer imagine an album without his valuable contribution that has now become synonymous with their records. I know people are often confused by his lyrics, and some of them do raise some questions as to why they didn't think of omitting them for something more sensible or relatable, but it's good that he no longer spends his time solidifying lyrics that are only structured around praising himself. WGTLLN took this a little bit too far. I'm glad they've moved on from that as that did carry the potential to add yet more haters to the already accumulating mob. They are now more relaxed and fun, as you pointed out.


His lyrics and participation have also made me dislike the first chapter more so than the second, third and fourth. The first just used his voice sparingly-- too little for my taste. This just literally ruins them for me. I guess it depends on how you perceive the group. I see HP being the frontman, and Rick and Michael being the engineers behind the sound. HP is a must have to add character to the music (if that's even the right word), working to compliment the track that little more. It's a collaboration that can only work with all three inputing their skills and talents to produce a memorable record. Yes, their instrumentals are good, and they work pretty damn well without HP, but they're just not the same. They don't have the same affect, and they certainly don't excite the crowd as much.






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Monday, April 5th 2010, 3:09pm

One Electro house song would be nice (Imagine Scooter feat. Deadmau5 or Benny Benassi :D)

But I'd like an album like JAOTW, or UTROTT, maybe taking inspiration from some AATW artists like Manian or Darren Styles. Scooter feat. Manian or Darren Styles would be great! (The Manian Scooter mix on Clubland Smashed is REALLY good, I never saw their styles go together, but I can see now that if they work together, it would be a real chart bomb, especially after the UK, as this would make up for UTROTT, and AATW will pay more attention to Scooter)
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Monday, April 5th 2010, 6:14pm

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I do wonder what style it will be... do we think more Hardstyle, back to jumpstyle, or happy hardcore stuff?

I would like to see one thing: Scooter gone "Electro House", for at least one song. Among other genres, I'm a huge fan of electro house, and seeing HP's vocals over something like that would be very interesting, a bit like "Take Me Baby"/

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1463523-02-01-01.mp3


This is a sample of a very famous Electro House song, Ghosts N' Stuff by Deadmau5.

Also, note Electro house is NOT electro, unlike that really weird remix of TSAMH we got.


For me it will be the baddest thing ever happened with the band. I hate Electro House and this is certainly NOT a style for Scooter. By the way, the Deadmau5 is OK sometimes, but ONLY because he's adding some trancy samples in some of his tracks (Ghosts'n'Stuff too). So, I can't call his style pure Electro House, because it's a mixture of styles. But anyway, I like Marcus Schossow much more :) And I really hope that Scooter will NEVER go for Electro House.
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Monday, April 5th 2010, 9:35pm

Track like "Take Me Baby" will be not bad, but only if it will be 1 in the all album, not more!
and for me single "Ti Sento" is 3-track single, not 5. :)

I don't like electro house...
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Tuesday, April 6th 2010, 1:43am

i would like to see a return to the electonic guiters, we havent had some sinceTUAO

maybe a mixture in styles would be a good choice,
see what comes out to be more favorible to the fans and press, and a little less sampling would proberly help in terms of haters and press

for example

1-intro which leads onto a trance track-no or little hp lyrics
2-typical scooter track-bring on mc hp, with dance style female lyrics
3-some guiters like fire of something-some rough lyrics
4-maybe some house-no hp
5-more trance-no or little hp, some female
6-move on to some hardcore- some hp shouts, maybe hpv
7-a respectable bit of jump-some mc hp lyrics, maybe hpv
8-some drum and base-miner hp, soem sexy female
9- an ambient track-no hp, some female
10-another scooter style track-typical hp
11-a techno style track-maybe something 'like hypa said' with female
12 the fames trance final track leading to outro, some female or none

a good way to see there strengths within, then when a single is released, infuence it on the current trends with a combonation of this albums mixed style

any good bonus material is welcome, live tracks, videos, remixes, or maybe a mini biographie book on scooters career with pics
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Tuesday, April 6th 2010, 2:18am

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And I fear they choose house/electro as the next style...
god please protect us for a Scooter-electro-house album!

I would like that to happen, even if I don't think it will. It might be too slow for them, in their own opinion. I don't know what P.U.C.K. is exactly, but more of that stuff would be great.

Good ideas kelvo, such an album would be cool too. :D I like diversity, but as pointed out, recently they have made albums with a strong theme (or whatever), so it's possible the new one will be mostly in a certain style. What are the trending styles right now?
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Tuesday, April 6th 2010, 2:48am

Acid: i don't give a flying fu.ck about the actual trends, Scooter should be Scooter if u know what i mean, not a trendfollower UBER comercial coverband :thumbdown:
The next album should be techno+trance and 1 or 2 experimental tracks! Nothing more!
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