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Wednesday, December 2nd 2009, 10:36pm

"Wham! - Last Christmas" is 24 places higher than "Scooter - TSAMH" (trendchart yesterday)
have somebody hear the cover from cascada??? this is for me a cover and a bad one. WTF!!!! and nobody say bad thing about this horrible cover, but if scooter sampled, it´s a big scandal. cascada covered every song almost 1:1. or i´m wrong???
The Cascada producers did done a lot cover-versions on the first and second album, but since the third one (the new one), they stopped it and created a full own made sampler.

And about the "bad thing" discussions. You should hear the current hands up tracks. Almost everyone is a cover or has samples.

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Wednesday, December 2nd 2009, 10:59pm

I think I am the only one who is happy about this.
TSAMH single edit is pure lazyness (at least by HP and except the video of course) and it shouldn't receive a high chart position...
I don't think the lyrics are pure lazyness by HP. Too much lyrics would've ruined the song IMO. To me it would've been okay, if he added no shouts at all.
Really interesting how mood is changing here because of a bad chart position!
After
listening to the album version nearly everyone said "wow, epic track",
there was a topic "Is TSAMH the best Scooter song ever?" etc.. We all
had almost the same opinion: replace the rushed "In my arms"-parts by
something different and this track will be a bomb as single release.
And please no SOR-single!
And now?
Everyone is moaning and saying:"SOR had more single potential, we miss the hard in-my-arms-parts etc."
Folks
-in my opinion this single version is still a very good track and the
main cause for the lacking success is according to my opinion the bad
release policy (nearly each 1-2 months a new single, almost no time for
promotion, release before Christmas when even Ramp was doing not so
well at first...)
I couldn't agree more with everything you said! To me, this track is still epic and belongs to my overall Scooter-favourites and no bad chart position can change this.
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Wednesday, December 2nd 2009, 11:08pm

f.u.c.k the charts :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbup:

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Wednesday, December 2nd 2009, 11:28pm

f.u.c.k the charts :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbup:
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Wednesday, December 2nd 2009, 11:34pm

Also low position in DJ charts:
German DJ playlist - 46>36
Deustche DJ Charts (DDJC) - 86>76
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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 1:42am

As they said in 'caught by the radar' the tracks they think will do well may not always do so well, yet the tracks they think won't be popular often do.

with Scooter you can never be sure how people will take it.

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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 9:43am

In all cases: Take your time to produce and promote a really finished version of SOR and WTB... and release it in the new year (not another rushed under-promoted release before Christmas!).

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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 10:18am

The good tracks always go bad in the charts, the bad and cheesy ones like The Question break all records... So we know that the next single will be as cheesy as possible. :D

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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 11:07am

The good tracks always go bad in the charts, the bad and cheesy ones like The Question break all records... So we know that the next single will be as cheesy as possible. :D

It's a fact, the cheesier the single the more succes it has, the better the single the less succes it has. It's strange but a fact, the masses seem to like a little cheese factor in tracks.
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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 12:02pm

not top 30 anymore... ...and going down...
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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 12:16pm

The good tracks always go bad in the charts, the bad and cheesy ones like The Question break all records... So we know that the next single will be as cheesy as possible. :D
damn true ;)
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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 12:37pm

I love this song, the non-fans have a bad taste :D
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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 12:58pm

The good tracks always go bad in the charts, the bad and cheesy ones like The Question break all records... So we know that the next single will be as cheesy as possible. :D

It's a fact, the cheesier the single the more succes it has, the better the single the less succes it has. It's strange but a fact, the masses seem to like a little cheese factor in tracks.


I think some people are just trying to make excuses to suit their argument. How good a single is is usually a subjective thing, unless you take into account the views of a wide range of people, which in part is what the chart positions represent. Personally I think this one has done poorly, simply because it's not all that good. I also think it's quite cheesy as well, not that that's necessarily a bad thing. I mean the H.P lyrics are hardly profound, and I think they're a bit corny.

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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 3:13pm

The good tracks always go bad in the charts, the bad and cheesy ones like The Question break all records... So we know that the next single will be as cheesy as possible. :D

It's a fact, the cheesier the single the more succes it has, the better the single the less succes it has. It's strange but a fact, the masses seem to like a little cheese factor in tracks.


I think some people are just trying to make excuses to suit their argument. How good a single is is usually a subjective thing, unless you take into account the views of a wide range of people, which in part is what the chart positions represent. Personally I think this one has done poorly, simply because it's not all that good. I also think it's quite cheesy as well, not that that's necessarily a bad thing. I mean the H.P lyrics are hardly profound, and I think they're a bit corny.

For me it aren't excuses to suit my argument, I really mean it Bigswano ;) For me this track is excellent and deserves a big succes. I see it on the same level as No Fate, some will maybe attack me for that opinion , but it's a fact. It is and will always be amongst my favourite Scooter tracks of all-time, and I can't find a part in this TSAMH track that could be called cheesy.... The track is excellent, creative, trancy, it''s superb !!
And even if a track is popular according to the view of the masses, it doesn't mean it's a good track, it's just popular, it says something about the "earworm" factor of a track ;)
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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 3:56pm

This is a track that Scooter should be proud of. I remember months before the release of the album I said I'd like more hardstyle and a trance track. Quite a few others said that too and they listened.

This track also shows that even after all the jump/hardstyle stuff they can still make a Scooter-esque track that brings a certain spirit to it. It reminds me of Christmas watching the video. I'd love to live in a town like that. It looks like a gingerbread village.

I'm tired of the "come on" shouts though, i think some songs could do without them. He's not really an MC anymore, more of a rapper/vocalist, there's no need for the random shouts, just verses.

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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 4:54pm

Some fans will say, that the promotion for the single was bad.
The other fans will say, that the people, which didn't buy the cd are having a bad taste.

Sounds like a typical excuse!

A chart-position or a huge success doesn't mean nothing...

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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 5:20pm

A chart-position or a huge success doesn't mean nothing...
What counts, is what people think of it 8)
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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 7:11pm

Some fans will say, that the promotion for the single was bad.
The other fans will say, that the people, which didn't buy the cd are having a bad taste.

Sounds like a typical excuse!

A chart-position or a huge success doesn't mean nothing...
Why excuses? It's just speculation why the single won't chart as high as some of us hoped for. Nobody of us will ever know the reasons for TSAMH not doing well. Probably not even the band themselves. The things mentioned here can be possible partial reasons, but no one will ever know why. But I agree with you, success or a high chart position doesn't tell anything about the quality of a song and whether a song is good or not, is simply a subjective assessment.
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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 7:30pm

success or a high chart position doesn't tell anything about the quality of a song and whether a song is good or not, is simply a subjective assessment.

Exactly, just look at Schäfer Heinrich or some Big Brother stars in Germany, they charted well, and had cr.ap songs :D
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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 8:56pm

some people should really get a life....

for me it is still the best single they have done for a while because it is not just copied from a fresh track. btw they are producing awesome b-sides at the moment!
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