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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 11:39pm

I do what I want, and don't give a damn about what others think.
Scooter can do that too - they can make what THEY like, and not what they think OTHERS will like.

HP said it so nice in Jigga Jigga - "if you love me or you hate me, I don't give a damn" - but it looks like they do give a damn now, as they're more commercial than ever.
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Friday, December 4th 2009, 8:36am

I do what I want, and don't give a damn about what others think.
Scooter can do that too - they can make what THEY like, and not what they think OTHERS will like.

HP said it so nice in Jigga Jigga - "if you love me or you hate me, I don't give a damn" - but it looks like they do give a damn now, as they're more commercial than ever.
sad but true. Just look at TUAO,for me is a damn good album,it's not a trendfollower sh1it,but without succes. Then jumpstyle camed up as a big trend and Scooter followed (unfortunately)the trend and they had bigger succes with a cheaper and heavily ripped album (JAOTW) than hey had with TUAO. After the jumspstyle era,hardstyle was the new trend in Europe and it wasn't so hard to guess what Scooter will produce. As i said before Scooter should be a trendmaker not a trendfollower,a big name in the msic industry not a little cheap coverband unrespected by everyone. Also i'm not against covering or reworking but i would like to see some own ideas too....some creativity too......because when the "new" album is 80% ripped,then is a problem :S As a fan i never liked the charts,i'm not even bodering to check the charts or the topics about them :thumbdown: All I want is a big hard-trance,techno album in the futture with own creations and covers,to blow us ;)
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Friday, December 4th 2009, 9:42am

I've got to admit I'm sick of this intensive ripping.

I know we've complained about this countless times in the past, but even if the ripped song is decent, it still leaves a sour taste in your mouth when you learn that only about 10% of the song can be considered original.

It's not enough for Scooter to just rip one old song for a new track, they've now got to rip three or four just for three and a half minutes of music.

Ti Sento is a good example of this. Even though it is a legitimate cover of that old disco song we're now all familiar with, it still manages to copy Technoboy's cover, Wildstylez's Music or Noize, and Crypsis' Sonic Sabotage. The end result sounds pretty good I'll admit, but it's just so damned unoriginal.

In regards to this trend following, it doesn't really bother me because I'd never heard of Jumpstyle before JAOTW, and Hardstyle's been popular in Australia long before UTROTT.

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Friday, December 4th 2009, 9:53am

Hardstyle's been popular in Australia long before UTROTT.


Oh yeah, waaaay before UTROTT. I recall people at my school in year 9 doing the Melbourne shuffle. And that was a good 6 years ago now!
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Friday, December 4th 2009, 11:14am

All I want is a big hard-trance,techno album in the futture with own creations and covers,to blow us ;)
Yeah - a combination of TSTE, WBTN and BTTHJ would rock!
Maybe with some good sampled melodies, BUT from the 70's and/or 80's, and not recent. AND the rest as own and original as possible.
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Friday, December 4th 2009, 12:31pm

All I want is a big hard-trance,techno album in the futture with own creations and covers,to blow us ;)
Yeah - a combination of TSTE, WBTN and BTTHJ would rock!
Maybe with some good sampled melodies, BUT from the 70's and/or 80's, and not recent. AND the rest as own and original as possible.
I agree with u and bigswano :!: First of all i really hope there won't be a new "magic" trend to follow again,so they will have to make a tipical album. Secondly,Scooter should read this topic....
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Friday, December 4th 2009, 1:30pm

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Yeah - a combination of TSTE, WBTN and BTTHJ would rock!


I love those albums. I really want another track like FTM, where it's just a simple melody, the beats, and some wicked freestyle mcing by H.P, as opposed to rapping.

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Friday, December 4th 2009, 1:45pm

Personally, I think UTROTT blew us away. number 2 in the charts, shame it didn't stay for longer. let's face to, dance is a niche market, its not something really old people will listen to. We should be proud of wherever they get in the charts.

I really don't mind ripping, even now I'm finding more and more samples. Today I found the sample noise that comes after HP says "how do i get off the bus?" I love scooter and what they do, that's why I'm here. The day I stop liking them I'll leave.

I'd like a slow track after the next single release, ballad or house i hope. Something completely different to LUT but still as hard. I'd like to see a move towards TUAO again :)

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Friday, December 4th 2009, 1:49pm

Personally, I think UTROTT blew us away. number 2 in the charts, shame it didn't stay for longer. let's face to, dance is a niche market, its not something really old people will listen to. We should be proud of wherever they get in the charts.

That's a fact, right now it's a niche market, in the beginning of the 90s it was more mainstreem / trendy. Nowadays we can be happy that dance still exists, and that Scooter still have rather good succes with their style, because we have to admit it, they are almost the only dance/techno band that's still in the top 40 nowedays. They have lived through 2 musical decades already and in 2010 the 3rd musical decade is starting for Scooter 8)
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Friday, December 4th 2009, 1:54pm

so true, so many decent bands have come and gone over that space of time. The member changes have certainly helped keep it fresh. Its amazing how after these changes they've still kept that edge.

I still don't know why they're so disliked. There's a new version of 50 cent's Ayo Technology here in the UK and it sounds awful but its doing well in the charts. Ultrabeat did a cover of Someone like you by that rock band, Kings of Leon. Dance is all about up-beat covers of your favourite radio tracks. It's always been that way :D

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Friday, December 4th 2009, 6:25pm

Personally, I think UTROTT blew us away. number 2 in the charts, shame it didn't stay for longer. let's face to, dance is a niche market, its not something really old people will listen to. We should be proud of wherever they get in the charts.

I really don't mind ripping, even now I'm finding more and more samples. Today I found the sample noise that comes after HP says "how do i get off the bus?" I love scooter and what they do, that's why I'm here. The day I stop liking them I'll leave.

I'd like a slow track after the next single release, ballad or house i hope. Something completely different to LUT but still as hard. I'd like to see a move towards TUAO again :)
i understand u perfectly but i hope i'm not misunderstood. It's NOT that i don't like Scooter these days. I'm a big fan since 2001 and i always will be. I just want to have better and better stuff from them....and yes,I admit UTROTT is a good step,a positive one if we compare UTROT and JAOTW (because we all know that both have ripped things but JAOTW is made with lot more ripped things than UTROTT). I know it's impossible without money.....but for sure the MONEY is the biggest shi1t on Earth. distroyes everything music hindustry,art,peace,love and not to mention human behavior. Now back to the topic: I WANT SCOOTER TO BE SCOOTER!!
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Saturday, December 5th 2009, 12:12am

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As a fan i never liked the charts,i'm not even bodering to check the charts or the topics about them
Funny. I could of sworn this thread was about the charts... :D

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but for sure the MONEY is the biggest shi1t on Earth. distroyes everything music hindustry,art,peace,love and not to mention human behavior. Now back to the topic: I WANT SCOOTER TO BE SCOOTER!!
I still think the whole ripping issue is still too inconsequential to worry about. I'm failing to see any reason why we should take offence to Scooters notorious tendency to sample. How does this method affect us in the slightest? I can see a few artists being a little disgruntled about their tracks being converted into something more musically friendly, and even going as far as to take credit for it, but to see 70% or so of this little community complain about it monotonously just doesn't seem to fit into the category of logic.

I want Scooter to be scooter? What does that even mean? ?( It makes a little but of sense in the context of a particular formula used to compile a track, but what does it mean in this specific instance? They've gained the reputation of being the artists that rip conspicuously, and they've been doing this for a while now-- so why not just accept the fact that this is Scooter? They've obviously opted to utilize this musical technique because there is some monetary benefit in it; something to gain. I need not mention that they've generated quite a bit of fame from it.

You've been pleased with everything so far, right? I mean to a certain extent, for there a few albums that we could all do without.

Indeed. Money is an inanimate manifestation of the Devil. I get that. However, pleading Scooter to relinquish their business plan just to magically change the minds of thousands of critics is just a pipe dream. How on earth do you expect them to remain mainstream if they aren't appealing to it? I'm detecting a paradox permeating the minds of a few members. You want them to be successful, but in order to obtain that, you're encouraging to abandon their current paradigm for something a little less promising. You are basically asking them to put their stardom on the line; risks a band like Scooter cannot afford to make. The title of the new album says it all.

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Same here! 8) Well, most of the time... Ha.

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Saturday, December 5th 2009, 11:38am

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As a fan i never liked the charts,i'm not even bodering to check the charts or the topics about them
Funny. I could of sworn this thread was about the charts... :D

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but for sure the MONEY is the biggest shi1t on Earth. distroyes everything music hindustry,art,peace,love and not to mention human behavior. Now back to the topic: I WANT SCOOTER TO BE SCOOTER!!
I still think the whole ripping issue is still too inconsequential to worry about. I'm failing to see any reason why we should take offence to Scooters notorious tendency to sample. How does this method affect us in the slightest? I can see a few artists being a little disgruntled about their tracks being converted into something more musically friendly, and even going as far as to take credit for it, but to see 70% or so of this little community complain about it monotonously just doesn't seem to fit into the category of logic.

I want Scooter to be scooter? What does that even mean? ?( It makes a little but of sense in the context of a particular formula used to compile a track, but what does it mean in this specific instance? They've gained the reputation of being the artists that rip conspicuously, and they've been doing this for a while now-- so why not just accept the fact that this is Scooter? They've obviously opted to utilize this musical technique because there is some monetary benefit in it; something to gain. I need not mention that they've generated quite a bit of fame from it.

You've been pleased with everything so far, right? I mean to a certain extent, for there a few albums that we could all do without.

Indeed. Money is an inanimate manifestation of the Devil. I get that. However, pleading Scooter to relinquish their business plan just to magically change the minds of thousands of critics is just a pipe dream. How on earth do you expect them to remain mainstream if they aren't appealing to it? I'm detecting a paradox permeating the minds of a few members. You want them to be successful, but in order to obtain that, you're encouraging to abandon their current paradigm for something a little less promising. You are basically asking them to put their stardom on the line; risks a band like Scooter cannot afford to make. The title of the new album says it all.

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Same here! 8) Well, most of the time... Ha.
i love Scooter too and most of the time i love what they do too. I'm just saying with this "I want Scooter to be Scooter" they they should ripp less. Probably i should quit post in this topic because i'm misunderstood. I ACCEPTED FROM THE FIRST MOMENT THE RIPPING MATTER and all i want is to see ripps like in the 1994-2003 period not SO MANY ripps like on JAOTW. That's all :!: When is too much is just too much.....
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Saturday, December 5th 2009, 7:28pm

I understand you.
More own made stuff, less ripoff's and - about having a few - at least from the 70's and 80's.
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Wednesday, December 9th 2009, 10:10am

I do hope the album went up a bit this week, it would be sad when it would already have left the charts...soon we will know it, I hope it went up a bit. :S
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Wednesday, December 9th 2009, 6:43pm

For the next album, I hope it stays more original as well. I love the hardstyle sound, but Scooter needs to make their own. For example, Lucullus was great! Make more tracks like that and Scarborough reloaded, and you have yourself an original and great hard dance album.
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Wednesday, December 9th 2009, 9:42pm

Lucullus was great! Make more tracks like that and Scarborough reloaded, and you have yourself an original and great hard dance album.
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Wednesday, December 9th 2009, 11:10pm

For the next album, I hope it stays more original as well. I love the hardstyle sound, but Scooter needs to make their own. For example, Lucullus was great! Make more tracks like that and Scarborough reloaded, and you have yourself an original and great hard dance album.
Have UTROTT got old so we're speaking about the next album? :huh: It's much time left until the next album. Let's enjoy UTROTT for the moment.

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Thursday, December 10th 2009, 12:14am

they should lay of the sampling a bit and bring back the 2nd chapter sound
i partly think scooters 80% sampling is to blame for the bad run in the charts
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Thursday, December 10th 2009, 12:33am

I don't think so. I think that most people who buy the record, people who maybe aren't that much into the whole dance genre and all it's sub-categories don't even recognize the samples, as they just don't know all those hardstyle/jumpstyle/whatever-kind of songs. So do I. If I wouldn't be on this forum, I simply wouldn't know that they sample that much. And I think for the most buyers out there it's the same. And actually it's just TSAMH which is not doing well in the German charts. Ti sento and the album were doing pretty good apart from UTROTT falling quite quickly. But I wouldn't blame the sampling for it.
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