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Louder

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Friday, October 19th 2007, 9:09am

What's required to become a DJ/Producer?

Hey posse...
Forgive me if this has been discussed before but i need an accurate information on producing music (with software).
Mainly three questions:
First and foremost,how much knowledge of the basic music theory is needed to become an intermediate/amateurish DJ/Producer?

Second,what's the actual difference between producing with hardware and with software alone?

Third,what program do you recommend to get started?

Any other thing to notice :?:
I would be grateful for any helpful thought.
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Friday, October 19th 2007, 9:56am

1. None. Although it might be helpful in creating some harmony and structures, but those all can be made with experimentation -- you'll learn to compose/make music even if you know absolutely nothing about the traditional theory. There are more than billion examples of this.

2. I'm not even sure, I don't think there's that much difference anymore -- I guess before it was the quality of sound or something, that the hardware created better and more authentic sound, but I don't know.

3. I started with Buzz tracker but I don't recommend that to anyone -- it could be used to get nice sounds but it was damn buggy and often crashed and blasted wall of noise and scared the sh!t out ouf me. :lol: Plus it almost never started, it was really frustrating to get the program open! And then it stopped working for me altogether... So, perhaps Fruity Loops. Would anyone else suggest that? I'm sorry, I really don't know about good software.
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Friday, October 19th 2007, 11:32am

got Reason 4 the other day.. lovin it.
other than that I use FL 6, Sonar 6 and Audacity.
I got Cubase somewhere around here, as well as Logic.

I mainly, and almost only, use Reason.
I prefer it and I kinda suck when it comes to the other stuff.

These kind of programs are quite expensive. So unless you're willing to spend a lot of money on it, I wouldn't recommend buying them just yet.

There are simpler games such as eJay. I don't know what version is currently on the market, cause I don't use those anymore.
But that kind of programs are very good to start with.

When you feel like you understand how music works. Then you should get one of the more expensive ones.

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Friday, October 19th 2007, 12:35pm

FL Studio is not that expensive (€ 85) and a good programm to start producing with, I still use it, but want to try Reason some day....
I also have Logic but I can't get any sound out of it.

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Friday, October 19th 2007, 2:03pm

Well i bought a book about the basic theory months ago and resolved to learn it on my own.It was going well until i felt kind of boring about the matter on hand.So i asked the first question to make sure whether my brain has to be strained to learn the music production,which you stated no need for that( Amen :lol: ).However,i might consider registering for a planned learning course as moving forward with experimentation.
You know, while i'm outside alone walking around,i make short phrases of music in my mind like a mad boy and play it thru my mouth quietly(sometimes loudly :lol:).
I mean i feel the talent and passion for music inside of me.So i want to express it out somehow and that motivates me to make music.

ScoX , i have used Ejay 7 and it was fun and pretty simple to work with but i uninstalled it mainly because the system resources required to run the program was somewhat low.Now there's almost no problem to run it.But do you think i should stick to it until it's fully in my hands? Or as Massive Tudom says,FL is also a good starting point? By the way,no problem with costs of the cited programs,i can get over it in one way or another. :wink:
There's also one thing else that needs to be figured out: Musical ear improving programs and methods. Are they really useful or necessary?

Again, any other tips or ideas? :)
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Saturday, October 20th 2007, 4:05pm

try reason to get started.
I don't use it but it's the cheapest solution to get good
quality synths and effects in one package. (sequenzer included)

and one additional thing:
don't give up. it will take LOOONG time to get the stuff like you want to get it. :wink:

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Saturday, October 20th 2007, 5:50pm

To succeed with FL you must have a good amount of money to pay for all the VSTs you'll need, or you must resort to filesharing.. cause without VSTs, FL isn't very useful at all.

Reason is simple in the way that you don't need anything else than the program itself to produce high-quality music.
However Reason does not have VST support, which sucks.. But it's not like you need the VSTs anyway.

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Saturday, October 20th 2007, 6:29pm

Quoted from ""ScoX""

without VSTs, FL isn't very useful at all.


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Saturday, October 20th 2007, 10:20pm

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without VSTs, FL isn't very useful at all.


Boolsheet :) Sytrus and 3xOsc is all you need :)


yeah, I should've added "imo"

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Saturday, October 20th 2007, 10:23pm

Can you create a good sound out of this 3xOsc? Me not. :(

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Saturday, October 20th 2007, 10:51pm

Okay.I'll most likely try to get FL, or Reason as an alternative by the next month,when i'll be hopefully on a job to collect the needed money.And if a good deal of cash is earned, i'd consider buying a MIDI keyboard as well.

Thank you mates for your helpful recommendations.
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Saturday, October 20th 2007, 10:55pm

You can get FL Studio for nothing, you just have to search the net. :lol: Because Music Software and this stuff is really too expensive for people which don't earn money from the music they create.

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Saturday, October 20th 2007, 11:19pm

I mainly use FL Studio 6, it's nice and not very hard to use :)
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Saturday, October 20th 2007, 11:27pm

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You can get FL Studio for nothing, you just have to search the net. :lol: Because Music Software and this stuff is really too expensive for people which don't earn money from the music they create.

You thought i was serious?! (you think how i got Ejay ?! :lol: :lol: :wink: )I'll pay out only for that keyboard!
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Saturday, October 20th 2007, 11:29pm

Quoted from ""Louder""

Quoted from ""Alucard""

You can get FL Studio for nothing, you just have to search the net. :lol: Because Music Software and this stuff is really too expensive for people which don't earn money from the music they create.

You thought i was serious?! (you think how i got Ejay ?! :lol: :lol: :wink: )I'll pay out only for that keyboard!


Yeah you got me, you really sounded like you would do it. :lol:

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Sunday, October 21st 2007, 12:34am

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You can get FL Studio for nothing, you just have to search the net. :lol: Because Music Software and this stuff is really too expensive for people which don't earn money from the music they create.

You thought i was serious?! (you think how i got Ejay ?! :lol: :lol: :wink: )I'll pay out only for that keyboard!


Yeah you got me, you really sounded like you would do it. :lol:

I was only pretending. :wink:
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Sunday, October 21st 2007, 12:37am

Yes and we're just making fun, of course we buy all software legally! :lol:

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Sunday, October 21st 2007, 7:46pm

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Can you create a good sound out of this 3xOsc? Me not. :(


It can easily imitate TB-303, hoovers or even supersynths. Just play with the cut/res knobs and the freq finetune. Peak Controller also comes in handy to trigger fast changes.
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Friday, November 2nd 2007, 12:48am

"It's not what you know, it's who you know".

Remember that because it's important in order to get somewhere :lol:

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Saturday, December 22nd 2007, 5:54am

Don't be a fool, get a sequencer, something like Cubase SX, then you can use all the above, Reason, FL etc as third party instruments, VSTi's.

You won't need any hardware, ok maybe a mixer, some speakers, a soundcard from M-Audio (Good, Cheap) and a microphone if you desire vocals, Cubase SX (If using windows) can handle it all...

If you want to chat: "jeffreyjames80@hotmail.com".

In saying that, if you know your way around FL and Reason you can make very good quality music with those instruments w/out Cubase or the like.

It's up to you, cheers!
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