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bad promo for sure.

The only one was a failure several months ago.

DDE, which was the single to promote the new album was available the same day than the new album(!?!?!?)..what's going on, it should have been available 1month before the album's release date. Complete nonsense.

DDE is a big flop as the new album and another single won't change anything.

>bring the trance/hardstyle back with fresh sounds and a lot of energy!

Quoted from "MC909"

bad promo for sure.

The only one was a failure several months ago.

DDE, which was the single to promote the new album was available the same day than the new album(!?!?!?)..what's going on, it should have been available 1month before the album's release date. Complete nonsense.

DDE is a big flop as the new album and another single won't change anything.

>bring the trance/hardstyle back with fresh sounds and a lot of energy!

+1

Actually the fact that DDE was out at the same day as the album is when I think now not the reason it did so bad. Ok, due to the album release on the same day probably noone bought the CD single of DDE because for a little bit more money you get a 2CD album. But as for the download succes of the DDE single, it should normally do well when the track is liked, because it's also part of the album. And as I've heard also album songs can get into the single charts with enough downloads, so it seems that DDE also wasn't downloaded that well as seperate track and people downloaded the full album and not this 1 chosen seperate track. Because if they would have downloaded only a selection of tracks from the TBMU album including DDE, it would have done better in the charts. So it seems the customers simply weren't ready for the DDE sound, although the strange thing is that actually that DDE sound fits well into the charts if you ask me

Quoted from "Alucard"

Bring the trance but let the hardstyle out! +1

Same here!
Keep the same numbers of tracks and add one instrumental (4). i would just looove to see a progressive trance track

Quoted from "kelvo"

if this album and the remaining singles do flop, i can see scooter hitting the studio sooner rather than later,
this was a similar thing in 2007 with TUAO

NO, I hope they NOT will do that. I think they must take a break and re-charge there batterys. Another fast produced album will only damage Scooter more. Scooter have only there fan base left. The other people have abandon Scooter long time ago. They must bring back the old spirit now. And start to promote there productions MORE! And stop to follow the latest trends.

In 2007 Scooter had much luck. Jumpstyle was popular & the style fits Scooter. More people became fans. But now everything are the opposite

Somehow I have the feeling the steady fanbase has decreased quite much since UTROTT for some reason ... because I think in the past we had all the top 10 singles due to the huge steady fanbase, and now, it seems half of it or less is left, because otherwise all, DDE and TBMU would have been rather succesfull. So it seems UTROTT and it's first 2 singles were bought by the steady fanbase and other general people, and now with DDE and TBMU it seems only the shrinked steady fanbase has bought it. That's the only conclusion I can draw, because even due to the sound shock, steady fans will buy it, so it seems Scooter has lost many steady fans due to the JAOTW era. Although at first the JAOTW era looked succesful, but that maybe just because of many new short-time fans so to speak, that have left after the jumpstyle hype as we could already notice with the last UTROTT singles. And due to that we now can see that the steady fanbase has shrinked in since 2007, because they are the only ones left following Scooter now as it seems....hmmmm...

Quoted from "Scooterworld"

Somehow I have the feeling the steady fanbase has decreased quite much since UTROTT for some reason ... because I think in the past we had all the top 10 singles due to the huge steady fanbase, and now, it seems half of it or less is left, because otherwise all, DDE and TBMU would have been rather succesfull. So it seems UTROTT and it's first 2 singles were bought by the steady fanbase and other general people, and now with DDE and TBMU it seems only the shrinked steady fanbase has bought it. That's the only conclusion I can draw, because even due to the sound shock, steady fans will buy it, so it seems Scooter has lost many steady fans due to the JAOTW era. Although at first the JAOTW era looked succesful, but that maybe just because of many new short-time fans so to speak, that have left after the jumpstyle hype as we could already notice with the last UTROTT singles. And due to that we now can see that the steady fanbase has shrinked in since 2007, because they are the only ones left following Scooter now as it seems....hmmmm...

Can't agree with that at all. What is a "fan"? In Germany, Scooter have so much fans, or sympathisers. They wanna get the Scooter sound right (happy hardcore, hardstyle, fast and hard tunes), and the new album don't give it to them. So it's right, that a lot "fans" didn't buy the new album. (or like it that much) UTROTT was better in a few ways. The band has to release C'est bleu AND another HARDER single before the tour to motivate their fanbase. TBMU was such an experiment to show: We're still alive and could do some "new". The problem with "new" things is: most of the fans are conservative - as I said, they wanna get that: FASTER HARDER SCOOTER! (the feeling I mean).
They are sad, that the only band in the music style is soft right now. In my opinion, and I love Scooter BECAUSE of their HARD tunes, the new album is cool and fresh, but it should be their one and only "softer" album. If not, they'll lose a few fans, like Ed said.
positive: they are clever, they know their fans and the biz, and they release what they wanna do (never forget that) - the next album will be much harder. (softer than the new isn't possible at all haha)

ATTACKE!

Just wondering what the album's position could have been if the 2 singles were Sugary Dip and C'est Bleu.

I am not against experimental tracks. I think DDE is a great track and half of the album which is good but we can clearly see that Scooter's fans -and those who like them withouth being hardcore fan- don't want that kind of music and don't buy it.

Still, there are really great ideas on this new album like the battle on Beyond the Invisible: HP versus the high pitched voice for ex, DDE, It's a biz...

I think it´s more simple: The album isn´t good. You cannot imagine AC DC singing rap. People expect what they expect from Scooter, it´s all. They could be "creative", "fresh", etc. but staying with their style, trance, techno, happy hardcore....4

Same as it happens with Sheffield...even Sheffield was better...

Quoted from "Lost David"

I think it´s more simple: The album isn´t good. You cannot imagine AC DC singing rap. People expect what they expect from Scooter, it´s all. They could be "creative", "fresh", etc. but staying with their style, trance, techno, happy hardcore....4

Same as it happens with Sheffield...even Sheffield was better...

Well, staying with the style also didnt prove succesfull. Look how bad chartwise TSAMH did although it was a great and typical Scooter-style song. Same goes for Friends Turbo or The Only One, all Scooter style with some new influences. And well, they didnt work, so therefor Scooter might have thought they have to turn the wheel 180 degrees, to try to change their luck. So they did that with TBMU, and well, I do like that album very much, but it seems in general it's not what people want from Scooter as the chartpositions would suggest. But well, people also seem not to want the typical Scooterstyle it seems looking at the succes of singles since TSAMH.... so what do people want from Scooter ? Or do people simply don't want to hear any Scooter anymore? ....

Maybe it's just this simple:

All fans on the forum, and otherwise, who were interested, pre-ordered the album. Others got it after it's release.
But even so, maybe the pre-orders and other sales weren't enough this time, to push it to top 10, or even keep it high.

I think the promotion for recent releases has been the main reason for falling chart positions especially for singles, with social media its possible to really push and promote singles using facebook/youtube etc and making people aware of the forthcoming releases. There was a nice build up for the album which generated alot of interest but I think the casual music fan who expected probably something similar to UTROTT/JAOTW/TUAO might of been put off by the change in direction in TBMU.

Scooter's music is always renowned as being loud, fast and full of energy personally I like DDE but it lacks the energy normally found in every Scooter single, also the lack of extended/club mix/b-sides has probably been a big contributer to its fall down the charts (look at the extended J'adore Hardcore video - its the most popular Scooter video on youtube).

Ed - I agree TSAMH was a really great single, but im sure thinking back the video wasn't released or on youtube until a day or 2 before the official release?

I think it's falling because the singles haven't presented the spirit of the album properly, both DDE and The Only One fail to represent the potential of the album where one can find the "stronger" tracks of the album like Sugary Dip, It's a biz -because the singles are too slow comparing the tracks inside the album.

Also even if Only One is put aside, David fails to represent the more appealing sounds of the dubstep to the dubstep crowd and the crowd of the modern MTV (where Scooter probably aim-judging from the MTV-Dance UK channel I see), so the old fans of these popular sounds, are not becoming Scooter's new fans.

David is a bit all over the place,while tracks like Sugary Dip ,It's a Biz, and even Sex,Drugs and Rock'n'roll have the dubstep sounds more concentrated into one bigger part of the track-which seem to catch the ears of the younger generation,never mind those are almost the same sounds as you see all day on MTV-but again if Scooter aim at this crowd-they missed it with David, they probably gonna miss it with C'est Bleu as well-although I personally heard this track the most times from the new album.

From the other side there are Dreams,Sugary DIp, Copyright,It's a biz, where H.P is more rapping than MC'ing-and the singles failed to represent that new side of the album tracks as welll.

Also the better (IMO)tracks are with guest vocals/samples, and those singles released are H.P. alone...,so maybe C'est Bleu can show this side,but it contradicts with my 3rd paragraph so I don't know how successful it would be.

Bottom line if they want to take TBMU higher in the chart-as much as I love C'est BLEU, Sugary dip or It's a biz should be the next single, or even Sex,Drugs and Rock'n'roll.

Quoted from "Xer"

Bottom line if they want to take TBMU higher in the chart-as much as I love C'est BLEU, Sugary dip or It's a biz should be the next single, or even Sex,Drugs and Rock'n'roll.

Those last tracks would indeed represent the album sound very well. I see you think the same as me that although CB is a good track, it will give a wrong impression about the album and when people will hear samples they will notice that and might not buy the album because it's not CB enough so to speak. But CB as a stand alone track could be very well succesful, but as I said a while ago, it will help to sell itself, but might not help to sell extra units of the album. But well, if it sells itself good enough, atleast some succes would be there in this "down" times for Scooter. So finger's crossed that atleast the CB single itself will sell high amounts

I think it's time to change the third member,Michael Simon!!!

in my opinion everything started with andreas gerlich(alfi hartkor). his tv appereance on dsds was between ti sento and TSAMH and everything after ti sento charted bad. maybe it is now more embarressing than before to listen to scooter music because some people think this was a normal scooterfan