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Saturday, July 9th 2011, 7:58pm

"Under The Radar Over The Top" review by Gee Tee Age

UTROTT was an extremely pleasant surprise
It was a huge contrast to amateurishly composed and produced JAOTW and TUAO,
yet not good enough to fill previous Scooter albums' shoes.

1. Stealth
- a good intro having those trancey pads and the original idea of introducing a "massive" dude's voice

2. Jadore Hardcore
- extremely well produced hardcore track, great to shuffel to. Unfortunately, chorus is too cheesy for my taste and the verse parts were boring. Massive synth melody and C-part were the peak parts in this one

3. Ti Sento
- has a very very pleasing chorus - very well picked retro track to be ripped. Those vocals are great. Those arpeggiators in the introduction and underneath the pre-chorus part sound amateurish. Again a very fresh C-part

4. Where The Beats
- one of the big four - a very well executed hardstyle track with great sound and a sweet and lovely chorus that makes you fall in love with it.
Great to dance to or exercise to.

5. Bit A Bad Boy

- this is THE track of that album. Hardstyle at its best with great verse part vocals by HP, amazing shouts through out the track and a very emotional and beaufitul chorus, where the vocals, the crowd and the piano create a great evening celebratory atmosphere. HP shouting while the main melody plays sounds like a Sea Captain, commanding his crew.

6. State of Mind
- the beauty of those vocals and the harmony that the celtic instruments create go very well with the whole album's crystal and elite evening celebratory feel. Again, perfectly executed hardstyle. HP's lyrics fit perfectly

7. The Sound Above My Hair
- although it has all of Scooter's classic elements in it, this track is poorly executed and badly arranged. Black's Wonderful Life vocal part sang by HP is very airy and atmospheric and it sounds good. The verse parts sound badly, not to mention the cheesy supersaw chords that follow after the chorus is over. Radio Edit has some nice bagpipes, but I am on the opinion that Scooter shouldnt have inflicted that damage to the world

8. Stuck On Replay
- the last one of the BIG FOUR well produced hardstyle+HPV tracks on this album. Again HP is great here, the HPV part is sweet and lovely, and here one can again feel the huge stadium vibe that is also present throughout the whole album

9. See You Smile
- here bad feelings occur as I remember the cheesyness of TQIWITQ and And No Matches, who were just horrible. First of all, like in the forementioned tracks, here the HPV sounds like an annoying old lady again. Verse parts are boring and sound like they were produced in a rush. The main synth melody sounds too dull and cheesy. Very annoying track

10. Clic Clak
- another track that reminds me of JAOTW with its cheesiness. Its also a very forgettable one - they just threw a bunch of annoying stuff in there and a softwareish main melody played by a cheesy Nexus factory preset

11. Second Skin
- this is Scooter's most mature track, it has a very elite vibe, it is perfect for a warm up before going on a nice evening date with a pretty girl. HP is great on the vocals with his deep and thick voice here. The guitars and the sound are very well made. Arrangement is great here as well. Everything fits together. Im proud this is a Scooter track

12. Metropolis
- a forgettable, melodiless, average Scooter trance instrumental with a boring breakdown, sung by a woman with annoying voice and an ugly timbre as well.







Overall, album consists of 6 great hardstyle tracks, 4 of them are just spectacular and I call them the Big Four - BABB, WTB, SOR and SOM. There is also a great laid-back track and the rest is pure filler, even worse.

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Saturday, July 9th 2011, 8:09pm

5. Bit A Bad Boy

- this is THE track of that album. Hardstyle at its best with great verse part vocals by HP, amazing shouts through out the track and a very emotional and beaufitul chorus, where the vocals, the crowd and the piano create a great evening celebratory atmosphere. HP shouting while the main melody plays sounds like a Sea Captain, commanding his crew.


Absolutely agree. It's my track of the album too. Just love it. And Second Skin of course. J'adore Hardcore is one of my favs too.
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Saturday, July 9th 2011, 8:18pm

when i heard bit a bad boy for the first time i was really shocked about the non fitting break in it. the rhyddm is just too different..
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Saturday, July 9th 2011, 8:24pm

Have you been drinking again, GTA? :D
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Saturday, July 9th 2011, 8:31pm

Rochen its a bit strange for you, a Scooter fan, to be shocked by a non-fitting, contrasting structure element of a Scooter track. After all, Scooter has always been about that! Ramp and Nessaja's chorus parts are amazingly soft and gentle slow and contrasting against the rest of those tracks. Contrast is one of Scooter's greatest features!

I've adopted it in my music as well.

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Saturday, July 9th 2011, 9:17pm

Quoted

UTROTT was an extremely pleasant surprise
It was a huge contrast to amateurishly composed and produced JAOTW and TUAO,
yet not good enough to fill previous Scooter albums' shoes.

so Michael's involvement in UTROTT must be really low then... :P

I can hear what is amateurish on JAOTW, but what exactly is so bad with TUAO?
I agree with you on UTROTT, but the album is so noisy...


even the breaks are so loud, that you don't really hear the impact when the bassdrum kicks in.
Jigga Jigga did this way better:


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Saturday, July 9th 2011, 9:26pm

This is the music industry's problem, not a Scooter problem.

Music companies DEMAND louder records, no matter how noisy and clippy they get.
Compare Metallica's Death Magnetic with an older Metallica album.
Or a Lynyrd Skynyrd post '00 album with an album of theirs from the seventies.

PS: Im not going to repeat myself about whats wrong with TUAO. I've discussed that a thousand times already and I think everyone is sick of hearing that s&^t

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Saturday, July 9th 2011, 9:48pm

the break has got like 100bpm n the rest about 140, this cant work
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Saturday, July 9th 2011, 9:51pm

But it works
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Saturday, July 9th 2011, 9:59pm

the break is exactly twice as slow, dude ;) which is a great thing

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Saturday, July 9th 2011, 10:10pm

actually its a good idea but my brain doesnt respond to this effect ;) same goes for the c part of i shot the dj album vrtsion
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Saturday, July 9th 2011, 10:12pm

actually its a good idea but my brain doesnt respond to this effect ;) same goes for the c part of i shot the dj album vrtsion

Which is a great reference to the 70's and 80's disco and pop tracks and I love it

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Sunday, July 10th 2011, 12:11am

This is the music industry's problem, not a Scooter problem.

Music companies DEMAND louder records, no matter how noisy and clippy they get.

BUT Rick does the mastering and Jens is the 4th member + head of Kontor Records!
If someone would force Scooter to do this, then who else besides Jens?

I would expect Rick to have the balls and refuse to release such overcompressed music...
I highly doubt louder music means more success in the charts, that's cr@p.
At least UTROTT is not clipped. :rolleyes:

One can only hope they don't go any further as they already are... :|

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Sunday, July 10th 2011, 9:22am

The distribution companies demand louder sound.
At first listening a louder record sounds better in the average listener's ears than the same record, but properly mastered.
After many listens, though, the listener gets "tired" of the record and doesn't know why.

The reason is the record is too loud and noisy. But the sale has been done already.

If you are interested in knowing details on this topic, read the huge article on Wikipedia, called "Loudness War"

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Sunday, July 10th 2011, 9:53am

That's right, the mastering levels have been increasing since the 80s. It became a standard in the music industry that each recording has to be -0.0dB almost the whole length of a track. This is bullshit, if you ask me, but you can't do anything about it. Not even if you're Jens or Rick.

Here's an animation showing the mastering trends via the track 'Something' by The Beatles:



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Wednesday, July 13th 2011, 8:51am

That's right.

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Wednesday, July 13th 2011, 8:59am

UTROTT was really boring. It's one of the only albums I've bought that I've barely listened to afterwards.

I was bored of the album before I even bought it, that's just having listened to the songs on youtube a few times.

As far as I'm concerned State of Mind, Where The Beats, Bit a Bad Boy and Stuck on Replay were the same damn song. It just depends on which stolen synth melody and stolen vocals you prefer.

As for the others, it sounds like considerably more work went into J'adore Hardcore and Ti Sento but both are still second rate songs for me. Everything about J'adore Hardcore just sounds really try-hard, from the dub dub dubbing to the autotune on HPs voice to the name of the song itself. Maddy's voice is sexy though :) Ti Sento has great verses and a lovely c-part, but the vocals take up so much of the song we barely get to hear them. Couldn't they have just repeated the chick's part twice instead of three times.

The rest of the songs are forgettable. The Sound Above My Hair has an okay melody, a little cheesy, but the 'let's make some noise' part is really dull.

And Metropolis sounds like Scooter were like "well the fans want a trance closer, so let's just whip something together really quickly - Michael do you mind searching for a pretentious trancey vocal melody while I write the stock standard trance buildup and hopefully when we chuck them together they won't clash too much"
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Wednesday, July 13th 2011, 9:13am

You are right about everything except that the BIG FOUR (yes they sound alike) - they are 4 great tracks
Ti Sento couldn't have the chorus repeated only two times - the only commercial song in the past 10 years that had its chorus repeated only twice , not thrice, was Nelly Furtado - Say It RIght

And Second Skin remains a killer tune

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Wednesday, July 13th 2011, 10:27am

Ti Sento couldn't have the chorus repeated only two times - the only commercial song in the past 10 years that had its chorus repeated only twice , not thrice, was Nelly Furtado - Say It RIght
Maybe in commercial pop music, but not commercial dance music. And Scooter is after all a dance band. My signature is from 'The Island Part 1 (Dawn)' by an Aussie/British drum and bass band called Pendulum, and it only plays the vocal melody twice. And this song had HEAPS of airplay on commercial radio. Aren't half of basshunter's songs the same?
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Wednesday, July 13th 2011, 12:00pm

My signature is from 'The Island Part 1 (Dawn)' by an Aussie/British drum and bass band called Pendulum, and it only plays the vocal melody twice.

I love The Island part 1 :D
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