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Wednesday, December 16th 2009, 11:07am

It's indeed strange and sad. :S But there's not solid fan base for Scooter in Britain so maybe that's one reason... ?(

I think you're right, most UK fans were young 12-15 year old teenagers, and they tend to skip from one favourite to another and are very quickly influenced by trends. One can't count on them that much as on older fans. Sad but true. :(


Oh yes. I totally forgot that the fans tend to be that young there too. Then it's no wonder that the album ain't selling very well. They are indeed influenced by new trends very easily and they prefer downloading too. And like Traxx said all the fan fans probably bought the album from Germany in October. But sales don't tell the whole truth about how much people like the music itself as the downloading is increasing every year... Only real fans wanna get the cover art too nowadays I think... :S

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Wednesday, December 16th 2009, 6:05pm

The UK "success" of the album is so strange that it's almost not possible.
Even if there was bad promotion, even with teens that follow trends the album shouldn't have failed in that cruel way. If an album receives platinum and reachs #1 the following album will also be quite successful because there are usually a lot of people who are interested in that band which made #1.
Limp Bizkit released an EP in 2005 with almost no promotion, with no lead single and with only 7 tracks (some a bit strange) on it - and made #4 in Germany almost only because of the successful albums before.
I know that Scooter are not a big US album-seller rockband like LB, but nevertheless they should have had more success with UTROTT.

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Wednesday, December 16th 2009, 6:52pm

Just Face It!!! Scooter are cold now. In 2008 Scooter was hot as the sun. But now they are cold as ICE!!

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Wednesday, December 16th 2009, 8:03pm

But why? How can a band be "hot as the sun" in 2008 and "cold as ice" just one year later without bigger changes in their style?
Even trends go not that fast and that strong.

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Wednesday, December 16th 2009, 11:19pm

I just don't get one simple thing - why do people care about charts so f****ing much???

Those charts that are so important to you are flooded by cheesy, cheap and retarded songs by artists like Cascada, Inna and other horrible monstrosities.

Remember, you will NOT find quality music among the top of the charts - most people have sh*t taste in music and that proves why the disasters I mentioned above are topping the charts.

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Wednesday, December 16th 2009, 11:21pm

lady gaga has taken the limelight now i would say and susan boyle, and the timing and promo dosnt help, and i think many prefer the single cd the the dvd, imo, and scooter seen a massive increase with the launch of clubland tv and the two tours number 1 which was before the release so massive promo with the 50.000 fans that seen the shows,

many reasons and awnsers, but hey, cant win em all eh,

and i remeber when the legendary TSTE herein the uk although it was top 40, it only lasted 4 weeks
strange as that is trult one of the best albums, and the single from it in the uk did reasonbly well, i personly think one reason why JAOTW was number 1 was the bonus cd, all of those classic hits
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Thursday, December 17th 2009, 12:09am

I just don't get one simple thing - why do people care about charts so f****ing much???

Those charts that are so important to you are flooded by cheesy, cheap and retarded songs by artists like Cascada, Inna and other horrible monstrosities.

Remember, you will NOT find quality music among the top of the charts - most people have sh*t taste in music and that proves why the disasters I mentioned above are topping the charts.

Enough enlightenment for you!
Of course there is "crappy" music at the top of the charts, but there certainly also is quality music on top of the charts. And just because you don't like it, it doesn't mean that most people have a shìt taste in music. That statement is simply dumb. It might be your opinion that music from acts like Cascada, etc. (which I don't like, too) is cheap and retarded, but in the end it's nothing more than a subjective opinion and doesn't prove anything, as apparently for a lot of people their music is not cheap and retarded and they enjoy it.

Apart from that, of course a high chart position doesn't necessarily mean that a song is of high quality. And I still consider TSAMH as one of my favourite Scooter songs of all time and a great piece of music and no chart position in the world could change that. The same goes for example for No Fate.

And without wanting to attack you or something like that, but the sentence "Enough enlightenment for you!" at the end of your post makes you seem to be pretty arrogant.
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Thursday, December 17th 2009, 12:20am


I still consider TSAMH as one of my favourite Scooter songs of all time and a great piece of music and no chart position in the world could change that. The same goes for example for No Fate.

Indeed, very well said, 1000% agreed :thumbup:
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Thursday, December 17th 2009, 7:27pm

classification final

Charts " Under The Radar Over The Top"

Beep Hungary 1 week in Beep 40 albums

38 > OUT

Beep Switzerland 3 weeks in Beep 100 albums

51 > 57 > 81 > OUT

Beep Europe 3 attains 100 albums in the Top

12 > 54 > 73 > OUT

Beep Austria 5 weeks in Beep 75 albums

15 > 19 > 33 > 40 > 60 > OUT

Beep Russia 1 week in Beep 25 albums

25 > OUT

Beep Germany 9 weeks in Beep 100 albums

02 > 12> 18 > 31 > 43 > 76 > 84 > 92 > 99 > OUT

Beep on friday 2 weeks in Beep 100 albums

62 > 90 > OUT

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Thursday, December 17th 2009, 10:09pm

So now it's out of all top 100's....far too soon if you ask me. :S
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Thursday, December 17th 2009, 11:05pm

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Friday, December 18th 2009, 9:05pm

I just don't get one simple thing - why do people care about charts so f****ing much???

Those charts that are so important to you are flooded by cheesy, cheap and retarded songs by artists like Cascada, Inna and other horrible monstrosities.

Remember, you will NOT find quality music among the top of the charts - most people have sh*t taste in music and that proves why the disasters I mentioned above are topping the charts.

Enough enlightenment for you!
Of course there is "crappy" music at the top of the charts, but there certainly also is quality music on top of the charts. And just because you don't like it, it doesn't mean that most people have a shìt taste in music. That statement is simply dumb. It might be your opinion that music from acts like Cascada, etc. (which I don't like, too) is cheap and retarded, but in the end it's nothing more than a subjective opinion and doesn't prove anything, as apparently for a lot of people their music is not cheap and retarded and they enjoy it.

Apart from that, of course a high chart position doesn't necessarily mean that a song is of high quality. And I still consider TSAMH as one of my favourite Scooter songs of all time and a great piece of music and no chart position in the world could change that. The same goes for example for No Fate.

And without wanting to attack you or something like that, but the sentence "Enough enlightenment for you!" at the end of your post makes you seem to be pretty arrogant.
I agree with you but with HMITF too! Well,first of all i wanna say that i'm not some kind of musical God to know 100% wich is the highest quality in music or the worst. Most of the time everybody knows and accept that we are different with different tastes...and we should respect each other! Everyone has it's own opinion....but it's a subjective opinion NOT objective one! And then is the REALITY,and the reality is that bands like Cascada,N-dubz,O-Zone,Tokio Hotel,Inna,Lady Gaga are VERY CHEAP,COMERCIAL s.h.i.t.s of the music industry,hyped by the media and helped by some producers to release something. And why??? We live in a money maker era :!: And the majority is listening what they are forced to listen in clubs,public places and others....and everybody goes with the trend like a bunch of ships :thumbdown:
And about TSAMH, it's a good track,not the best. It's a little bit quick made and as i said before,with a C-part would be perfect :!:
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Friday, December 18th 2009, 10:48pm

I just don't get one simple thing - why do people care about charts so f****ing much???

Those charts that are so important to you are flooded by cheesy, cheap and retarded songs by artists like Cascada, Inna and other horrible monstrosities.

Remember, you will NOT find quality music among the top of the charts - most people have sh*t taste in music and that proves why the disasters I mentioned above are topping the charts.

Enough enlightenment for you!
Of course there is "crappy" music at the top of the charts, but there certainly also is quality music on top of the charts. And just because you don't like it, it doesn't mean that most people have a shìt taste in music. That statement is simply dumb. It might be your opinion that music from acts like Cascada, etc. (which I don't like, too) is cheap and retarded, but in the end it's nothing more than a subjective opinion and doesn't prove anything, as apparently for a lot of people their music is not cheap and retarded and they enjoy it.

Apart from that, of course a high chart position doesn't necessarily mean that a song is of high quality. And I still consider TSAMH as one of my favourite Scooter songs of all time and a great piece of music and no chart position in the world could change that. The same goes for example for No Fate.

And without wanting to attack you or something like that, but the sentence "Enough enlightenment for you!" at the end of your post makes you seem to be pretty arrogant.
I agree with you but with HMITF too! Well,first of all i wanna say that i'm not some kind of musical God to know 100% wich is the highest quality in music or the worst. Most of the time everybody knows and accept that we are different with different tastes...and we should respect each other! Everyone has it's own opinion....but it's a subjective opinion NOT objective one! And then is the REALITY,and the reality is that bands like Cascada,N-dubz,O-Zone,Tokio Hotel,Inna,Lady Gaga are VERY CHEAP,COMERCIAL s.h.i.t.s of the music industry,hyped by the media and helped by some producers to release something. And why??? We live in a money maker era :!: And the majority is listening what they are forced to listen in clubs,public places and others....and everybody goes with the trend like a bunch of ships :thumbdown:
And about TSAMH, it's a good track,not the best. It's a little bit quick made and as i said before,with a C-part would be perfect :!:

Hehe OMG! ^^

If Cascada, O-Zone, Tokio Hotel, Lady Gaga are "VERY CHEAP,COMERCIAL" & "money makers". What do you call Scooter then????



A band who sample & riping other artists songs :P

BUT NOO, that doesnt count as "Very Cheap" & "Money Makers" right? :D :P :)

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Friday, December 18th 2009, 11:08pm

I just don't get one simple thing - why do people care about charts so f****ing much???

Those charts that are so important to you are flooded by cheesy, cheap and retarded songs by artists like Cascada, Inna and other horrible monstrosities.

Remember, you will NOT find quality music among the top of the charts - most people have sh*t taste in music and that proves why the disasters I mentioned above are topping the charts.

Enough enlightenment for you!
Of course there is "crappy" music at the top of the charts, but there certainly also is quality music on top of the charts. And just because you don't like it, it doesn't mean that most people have a shìt taste in music. That statement is simply dumb. It might be your opinion that music from acts like Cascada, etc. (which I don't like, too) is cheap and retarded, but in the end it's nothing more than a subjective opinion and doesn't prove anything, as apparently for a lot of people their music is not cheap and retarded and they enjoy it.

Apart from that, of course a high chart position doesn't necessarily mean that a song is of high quality. And I still consider TSAMH as one of my favourite Scooter songs of all time and a great piece of music and no chart position in the world could change that. The same goes for example for No Fate.

And without wanting to attack you or something like that, but the sentence "Enough enlightenment for you!" at the end of your post makes you seem to be pretty arrogant.
I agree with you but with HMITF too! Well,first of all i wanna say that i'm not some kind of musical God to know 100% wich is the highest quality in music or the worst. Most of the time everybody knows and accept that we are different with different tastes...and we should respect each other! Everyone has it's own opinion....but it's a subjective opinion NOT objective one! And then is the REALITY,and the reality is that bands like Cascada,N-dubz,O-Zone,Tokio Hotel,Inna,Lady Gaga are VERY CHEAP,COMERCIAL s.h.i.t.s of the music industry,hyped by the media and helped by some producers to release something. And why??? We live in a money maker era :!: And the majority is listening what they are forced to listen in clubs,public places and others....and everybody goes with the trend like a bunch of ships :thumbdown:
And about TSAMH, it's a good track,not the best. It's a little bit quick made and as i said before,with a C-part would be perfect :!:

Hehe OMG! ^^

If Cascada, O-Zone, Tokio Hotel, Lady Gaga are "VERY CHEAP,COMERCIAL" & "money makers". What do you call Scooter then????



A band who sample & riping other artists songs :P

BUT NOO, that doesnt count as "Very Cheap" & "Money Makers" right? :D :P :)
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Saturday, December 19th 2009, 7:25pm

So now it's out of all top 100's....far too soon if you ask me. :S


The mayor said this carpet is a very special gift, it´s a kind of "flying carpet" that can fly them to the top of the charts so I think it´s time for HP and Rick to rummage out that carpet and start to fly :)
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Saturday, December 19th 2009, 7:36pm

So now it's out of all top 100's....far too soon if you ask me. :S


The mayor said this carpet is a very special gift, it´s a kind of "flying carpet" that can fly them to the top of the charts so I think it´s time for HP and Rick to rummage out that carpet and start to fly :)

Haha.....a good idea ;) :D
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Saturday, December 19th 2009, 11:02pm

And then is the REALITY,and the reality is that bands like Cascada,N-dubz,O-Zone,Tokio Hotel,Inna,Lady Gaga are VERY CHEAP,COMERCIAL s.h.i.t.s of the music industry,hyped by the media and helped by some producers to release something.
But you definitely can't say that there's just cráp at the top of the charts. And cráp music is still a matter of opinion. A lot of people here in Germany say that Scooter's music is very cheap, crappy, bad, "commercial" music and it has been since the beginning. But just because they say so, does it make the music cráp? In my opinion not. There's no objective opinion that says that a music act like Cascada is cheap produced cráp. And even if there would be one that says Scooter's music is cheap produced cráp, I wouldn't care as I like the music and that's what counts to me. And to me for example Lady Gaga's music isn't cheap produced cráp. I wouldn't say that I like her music. She's got 1-2 songs that are quite okay to me. Of course it's commercial, but so is Scooter's music. At the end, as you already said, it all comes down to the point that everybody's got a different taste of music that should be respected and that there simply is no objective opinion to judge whether music from certain artists is cráp or not.
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Sunday, December 20th 2009, 2:06pm

As a Scooter-fan you shouldn't call dance artists like Cascada crep. Us, the Scooter-fans, always struggle with those techno-gurus who have been saying that Scooter is cheap, crep, "Kirmestechno" since 1994. And they've always been talking like this no matter if Scooter covered or not. So we shouldn't say the same things aboout other dance artists and their fans. Otherwise we are not better than those self-praising techno experts and gurus.
Yes, there is a lot of music in the charts that wouldn't be that famous if youth wasn't always told that this kind of music/this artist is trendy. But: Not all the chart artists produce crep. If you touch people's heart with your music you'e done a good job - and most chart artists do touch the hearts of many people. There is no objective
definition that says "This kind of music is crep, this one is good".

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Sunday, December 20th 2009, 5:34pm

When the commercial dance tracks are made in a good way, I like them. A example? Listen to Lanai - "Rock and Roll". Wonderful hands up track! :)

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Sunday, December 20th 2009, 8:07pm

I am honestly disappointed! ;(
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