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So even if it can be considered a human being from 12 weeks, it's not able to survive alone.

Scientists and theologians are still squabbling over when the embryo actually deserves or qualifies for the status of a human being. In that sense it's not so much a scientific question, as it is a moral consideration. Some argue that the soul penetrates the body to enter the embryonic cell at conception, while a fair few scientists are convinced that the subsequent development of the central nervous system marks the beginning of life. In actuality, the sequence that leads to these intricate processes follow an indiscernible line that will forever leave the question of when an embryo becomes categorically human unanswered. Essentially, the belief that the cell has become 'human' at a particular stage is subjectively rooted in ones cultural upbringing and traditions. Due to this absence of a biological line so to speak, it will continue to be a flammable area of debate.

I still find it remarkable that no matter where you pose this question, the inhabitants will uniformly agree with one another about the ethical dilemma associated with it. The peculiarity of this reality seems to undergird our ethical projection of life. There's common ground to be found from where ever you reside in the world, shattering the persistent belief that it's rooted within a concurrent Zeitgeist. Rather, there's this universality or constant acknowledgement of a Moral Law... Why do we all feel uncomfortable when it comes to subjects involving the sanctity of human life? Considering that we're no nothing more than slightly advanced animals, we should both treat and regard ourselves as nothing less.

Keeping in mind that allot of these common women being precipitately impregnated are unleashing off-spring that are more times than not genetically inferior to someone of above average intelligence. As Richard Dawkins pointed out, the intelligence trait will only survive if the smartest and brightest reproduce at greater levels-- unfortunately, this is not the case. A considerable number of people are not only a disgrace to themselves, but a cumbersome reminder of our bleak future.

I look forward to the global cataclysm that will bring human numbers under control. Incidentally, I welcome abortion with open arms!

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What I wanted to say with that question is that the abortion doesn't
give to a human being the chance to live (I still believe an unborn
child is a human being).

Why do you keep aggrandizing human life?

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I am a human being and I have the right live. I think everybody should have this right

Another classic example of human egocentricity.

What makes you so special?

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I think it is purely a matter of personal choice. If the pregnancy was an accident and you feel you are unfit or not equipped enough to bring a child into the world then by all means get an abortion. If you decide you want a child then don't!

But there are so many other factors a mother should take into consideration before impregnation. My mother and father were lucky enough to inherent a measurable amount of intelligence, but their combined heights has left me standing at about 5 foot 4! I'm always self-conscious of my height around other people my age-- I look ridiculous. Fortunately, I see bettering myself through rigorous study and education more of priority, not wasting too much time wallowing in self-pity over my incredibly short stature... But others may not be so progressive.

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I look forward to the global cataclysm that will bring human numbers
under control. Incidentally, I welcome abortion with open arms!

I think I've made myself quite clear.

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I am a human being and I have the right to live. I think everybody should have this right

Another classic example of human egocentricity.

What makes you so special?

You misunderstood me. All I wanted to say was that everybody has the right to live.

I should have articulated this a little better.

The 'you' represents the entire human species.

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I don't have time to comment in detail now but, LOG would you say its rather contradictory to not allow abortions even after the subject of overpopulation. Apologies if I've read this wrong, its only that I'm having to be reall quick here today.

Aside from the fairly explicit support for abortion in my first contribution to this thread, the others were subtle hints toward to an organized eugenics movement. Even when the ideal 9 tenths of the population are extinguished via either natural causes or compassionate intervention by concerned citizens, a programme that specifically deals with the health of the human population must be galvanized into action to create a fitter line of human flesh. There's nothing more indignantly selfish than witnessing the degenerate branch of humanity breed in greater numbers to those of a stabilized background.

Before the end of the second world war, Germany had an impressive movement that was directed primarily against the indigenous population, as they rightly held that the inferior or 'untermensch' had a greater propensity to reproduce, becoming a detriment to the productivity of German society. Contrary to popular opinion, this was not fixated on sterilizing non-whites, but the Germans themselves.

Even though the birth rate of the superior branch of humanity was breeding at a much smaller rate than what we would today consider 'chavs', the German government made the mistake of encouraging reproductive trends by awarding mothers with larger families with the The Mother's Cross. What on earth were they thinking? Why did they abolish abortion, but condemn those mentally unsound to sterilization? It sounds a little more constructive to of forcefully sterilized a mother when she's conceived a maximum of two children-- today it would have to less. Nevertheless, the 1934 law of Prevention of Genetically Diseased Offspring, or the sterilization law, was a wonderful step in the right direction. Intelligence will only survive if those of greater intellect breed a greater rates.. As this is not happening, the 'untermensch' must be stopped in a coordinated effort to push them out of the picture completely.

Hence why I support abortion.

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Ok, I expressed myself wrong then.

So what does make humanity so special? Why do you aggrandize the value of the very species that is responsible for inflicting irreversible damage on the earth?

Humans are nothing but reprehensible parasites chocking the planet for everything that it's got. And our comeuppance is long overdue.