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Maybe some of you guys here still remember me me, but most of you probally won't. It doesn't really matter wether you've seen me before on this forum. If you have though, then you know I used to be a huge Scooter fan. And I mean huge. I've got every album and almost every single 'till The Ultimate Aural Orgasm. They used to be my favorite artist group. I'm saying 'used to be' because a lot has changed since the last time I was here (which was something like at the time of the release of The Ultimate Aural Orgasm). I've been expanding my musical knowledge. I started listening to hardcore a lot: I already did this when I still came to this forum, but this time I really dived into it and tried to get in-depth information about what hardcore is, how it's done etcetera. However, hardcore wasn't enough for me so I started expanding my favorite genres even further. It started with hardstyle, but I also started going through progressive house, (hard)trance, drum & bass, breakcore, electro, deep house and so on.

However, now, after quite some years in which I completely forgot about Scooter, I heared there was a new album. I also heared that most of the tracks sounded really familiar... The curious douche that I am, I decided to give the album a try and downloaded it. And by God, was I in for a surprise.
I've always known Scooter created music by using other tracks. We all know this. Things like I'm Raving, Back In The U.K. and Habanera all used melodies or vocals/samples that weren't written by Scooter. But I didn't mind: it just sounded nice. They gave their own twist to these melodies and samples, but did a lot of original stuff around it. And I accepted that.
I stopped accepting this though around the time of Who's Got The Last Laugh Now? I still remember there was a huge fuss on this forum around this album. Rock Bottom was probally the biggest shock, using the melody of the well-known dance hit Explode, originally produced by Jordan & Baker. But still, Scooter was Scooter and I had enjoyed them for a lot of years, so maybe this was just a mistake and they'd get back on the right track soon enough.
Then the jump-hype came to our world. And Scooter jumped along with it (pun intended). That's where my love for Scooter kind off 'died'. I finally noticed that they were in this business to score. It didn't matter how they'd achieve reaching #1 in the hitcharts, their only concern was to get there. So, while people suddenly 'discovered' the existence of jump (which had been around for a looooooooooooooong time already) Scooter decided to build an album around that. At that point, I simply refused to call myself a fan of the current Scooter anymore. They had done the exact thing I was hoping they would avoid: aiming for the big crowd. The only way in which I wanted to be refered to as a Scooter fan, was by their earlier productions. During that time, their albums existed for about 85% of original content with 15% not-so-original content. Today however, it's the other way around.

Well, you probally see where I'm going with this:

2. J'adore Hardcore - You probally know this already, I guess it has been spammed here a lot of times already but just to make sure this list is complete, the melody sounds a lot like The Pitcher - I Just Can't Stop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MxNTT8wFKU&translated=1 @ 0:57

3. Ti Sento - Samples are not written by Scooter (which I saw multiple people suggest on this forum). They have been used in Technoboy - Ti Sento.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLen_jZ0_T4 @ 3:15
I admit, Technoboy didn't write these samples either, the original track is some old '80 track. However, I have a strong feeling Scooter would have never used these samples if the Technoboy track didn't turn out to be a big hit. You'll notice why, just keep reading.

4. State Of Mind - I don't know if the samples have been used in other tracks since I don't recognise them. However, the melody sounds a lot like the one from Technoboy - Next Dimensional World.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRjTi0s5JIw @ 2:14
Sounds like Scooter just changed a few notes, because I'm sure if you'd let the second part of the melody go down in stead of up, you'd get Next Dimensional World's melody.

6. Bit A Bad Boy - You can't miss this one. The melody sounds familiar to you? That's probally because it sounds like Jumping All Over The World. Yup, they used Headhunterz - Rock Civilization... again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP-9CfDvA_U @ 2:39
Oh, and the samples are from Krezip - I Would Stay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4rod977sy8 @ 0:09
And guess what? SMD - Just Like You, a track with these same samples, was one of the most played hardstyle tracks on parties last year!

8. See You Smile - This one is obvious too. If you don't recognise these samples, you have a lot to learn about classics. Paul Elstak - Rainbow In The Sky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xvkYaldSd0 @ 0:00
Way to go Scooter: you used to shout out to him in Hyper Hyper and now you use one of his biggest hits of all time? (Also, anyone suggesting Paul would be honored to have Scooter use his samples is wrong)

9. Clic Clac - During the build-up to the mid-intro of this track, you hear some effects that have been used in Technoboy - Put Some Grace (the effects are in both versions of this track).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8xllMXhIZY @ 1:43

11. Stuck On Replay - Probally the one that hit me the most since I love the original. Stuck On Replay's melody makes a striking resemblance to the melody from Phil Ty - A Kay A [Ehm... Mix].
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXXNEeU1IDg#movie_player @ 2:25
Original samples are from Lionel Richie - Stuck On You.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7pxLdsHG…rom=PL&index=33 @ 0:32

So, not counting the intro, that makes... 8 out of 11 tracks with previously used stuff (also, I have my doubts about Where The Beats... being original as well but let's not worry about this one).
Now, you might say that some of my points are irrelevant. Like I said earlier in my post, Scooter has been using stuff (I refuse to use the word 'ripping' since it's such a negative statement) since they started their career. You might say that using samples like in Ti Sento, See You Smile and Bit A Bad Boy is 'their thing'. You might even say that State Of Mind doesn't sound like Next Dimensional World to you at all. But if you do, you're making the same mistake as I did those years ago. You refuse to acknowledge that Scooter continually produces tracks based on things they didn't have anything to do with.

I think my theory holds water: to me, it looks like Scooter is aiming for the big crowd again. And it looks like they're succeeding: I browsed around this forum for a moment and seen nothing but praise for this album. A praise for a lack of originality.
It's not just a random gamble though: Scooter is working systematicly. The tracks they picked to, as I like to put it, 'remix' are not just any tracks: Rock Civilization is considered one of, if not the best Headhunterz track untill now. Next Dimensional World was an anthem for Qlimax, one of The Netherlands biggest electronical parties. If you say 'Technoboy' to any hardstyle fan, a lot of them will reply with either 'Ti Sento' or 'Put Some Grace'. The Krezip samples have been used in multiple hardstyle & hardcore tracks: all of them turned into big floorfilling tracks. There you have your proof: Scooter is using big hits to create their own hits.

It's not my intention to start a riot here. It's not my intention to let you turn your back on Scooter, not at all. If you like this way of producing, that's fine. I just want to open up some eyes here, to make sure people know what they're listening to. Scooter are not masterminds of creativity, they are masters of bending hits in their favor. And of course, this is how the music industry works these days. I won't deny there are artists out there who I like and who do the same thing. Hell, Mad Dog & Noize Suppressor sampled 'Fire!' for one of their own tracks! But the way Scooter does it is just... different.

Using samples you didn't write, ok.
Using melodies you didn't compose... I can live with that if you make it sound good.
But creating an album with only 30% of your own input... That's just wrong

Quoted from "Will"

Quoted from "Kujirudo"

8. See You Smile - This one is obvious too. If you don't recognise these samples, you have a lot to learn about classics. Paul Elstak - Rainbow In The Sky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xvkYaldSd0 @ 0:00
Way to go Scooter: you used to shout out to him in Hyper Hyper and now you use one of his biggest hits of all time? (Also, anyone suggesting Paul would be honored to have Scooter use his samples is wrong)
A fact with a source or just your own thinking?

Obviously my own thinking. But are you implying that you believe one of the first DJ's to put early on the map (or hardcore, as it was called back then) would be happy with this track?

(I apologize for multi-posting but I'm having some trouble with the quote function)

Quoted from "Will"

Would also just like to say that not all of the tracks Scooter samples are original themselves:
Headhunterz took vocals from Pendulum - Prelude and Slam - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhy_HwWmW5A
Technoboy took vocals from Matia Bazar - Ti Sento (They even got the original singer on the video) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4JwenFloWk

I might seem to be picky, but at the end of the day, most people who come here complaining are too.

Opinions would differ in respect to the use of samples, but personally, I couldnt care less.

Forgot to read my second-to-last sentence? I don't mind sampling, it happens all the time in electronical music. I pointed these things out because some people here tend to think Scooter wrote these lyrics themselves.

Well, if you don't read my post, do you mind to not post at all? Because 1. I'm not here to whine 2. I'm not here to moan 3. I'm here to share my thoughts (which is a normal thing for something called a forum) and 4. Because I hope people actually find some things here they see as 'true'.
I don't hate Scooter, not at all. I just don't like what they do right now. And if you, Will, think I do hate them, then please don't bother posting here anymore since you are wasting both your and my precious time.

Quoted from "Ninja Stewart"

Kujirido - I think it's clear that Scooter have taken on this style of forming new tracks now. They take ideas and inspiration from other artists and fuse older tracks into new, Scooter tracks. Morally, this might be wrong in your opinion. But this is how they're doing things now and if that's what they want to do, then they can. If you don't like it, then don't listen. I can understand why it would annoy people that Scooter make these kinds of tracks, but there's nothing you can do about it. Personally, I quite like their way of track making because it introduces new music to me whilst giving me a new Scooter track to love in the process aswell.

Also, I've only listened to 1 sample (The Sound Above My Hair) and I am AMAZED you didn't mention the samples in that track. I was just waiting for it, it's one of the rare occaisons where I actually know which track Scooter have sampled.

First paragraph: You misunderstood, I am NOT saying that what they do is wrong, I am NOT saying they should stop using other content. I'm not here pretending to be a white knight to save you all from the evil lord Scooter, I am not. I posted this to share my thoughts about this album. Yes, it is all my opinion and yes, you may not agree with that. But I'm not here for the people who don't agree, not even when they've read my story. I'm here for the people who DO agree. If there are some people here who have never looked at Scooter this way or who refused to believe this way of work, if these people can finally understand how Scooter really works, then that's all I could hope for. That's it, nothing more, nothing less.

Second paragraph: No, I did not recognise those samples.