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talesoffantasy

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Monday, January 16th 2006, 12:53am

Which knobs, I was able to automate some of the controls in Bassline in Cubase. I might have done it with Flstudio, but I don't remember for sure.

The only thing you can really automate is the patterns, since they are pre-programmed in the vst. Audiorealism Bassline is more like a tb303 with a built in Matrix Pattern Sequencer to make basslines. It's not my most favorite bass vst...
Shout-outs go to: SLK, Hard C. Pusher, Soul Train, Dream Guardians, Deepforces, Ic3m4n, Trance-Atlantic, and N.E.O.N. Project. Thank you for your supports and feedback.

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Monday, January 16th 2006, 6:45am

I never use pre-programmed stuff, I usually use it in note-mode or write a bassline on my own...
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Monday, January 16th 2006, 7:05am

well good for you :lol:

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Monday, January 16th 2006, 10:42am

Another TB-303 softwareclone is Tau or Tau Pro. I think they sound great actually, maybe you can try those? :wink:



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Monday, January 16th 2006, 1:10pm

Quoted from ""Trance-Atlantic""

Another TB-303 softwareclone is Tau or Tau Pro. I think they sound great actually, maybe you can try those? :wink:


Also have them :P But Audiorealism is better as I experienced. Tau is only good for acid sawtooth basses...
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talesoffantasy

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Monday, January 16th 2006, 2:56pm

One of the Muon Tau vsts (probably Pro) is a good tb303 type vst. I never used Bassline too much, I used it on the Trance-Atlantic remix I did not too long ago.

I usually use other bass vsts. I even use Wasp from time to time for a nice sawtooth type synth, WASP is pretty decent for bass type sounds, nothing else really sounds good with it compared to many other vsts. Every vst has its own strength, even though you can use many vsts with multiple types of sounds...there are other vsts that can do better with certain sounds that people might be looking for.
Shout-outs go to: SLK, Hard C. Pusher, Soul Train, Dream Guardians, Deepforces, Ic3m4n, Trance-Atlantic, and N.E.O.N. Project. Thank you for your supports and feedback.

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Thursday, January 26th 2006, 8:23pm

Quoted from ""talesoffantasy""

Which knobs, I was able to automate some of the controls in Bassline in Cubase. I might have done it with Flstudio, but I don't remember for sure.

The only thing you can really automate is the patterns, since they are pre-programmed in the vst. Audiorealism Bassline is more like a tb303 with a built in Matrix Pattern Sequencer to make basslines. It's not my most favorite bass vst...


using the built-in sequencer is stupid, switch to note mode

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Thursday, March 9th 2006, 9:39pm

we r kinda loosing track, aren't we? Well on the encore DVD there is a Scooter studio tour where H.P. shows the camera round in the studios and there U can C the equipment: 4 lines of Racks full with effects, and stuff, 2 big analogue mixers (which they don't use any more), several synth-keyboards and a pc to arrange it all in Logic Audio.

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Monday, March 13th 2006, 2:38am

ill tell ya what, if i win billions and trillians of $$$$$/€€€€€ i will shout u all out a shiny new synth of MY choice :lol:

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Tuesday, June 13th 2006, 12:42am

The most important in dance music is a powerful bass. it must be dynamic, deep and clean. I haven't heard good bass from vst- there are no good low frequencies (it sounds like a plastic- i hope you understand me).
Only Korg Legacy , Hartmann Neuron VS (100% CPU- overload ;)) and Novation V-Station sound much better.
I remember- my first instrument (Roland JP-8000). Believe me- I was in shock. Modulation, filters and sounds- I said: no more vst.

I use Cubase SL 3. There is no video montage but I'm not interested in video.

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Tuesday, June 13th 2006, 7:53am

does that mean you record all your stuff you play with your synth as audio and arrange it afterwards? Well, I love editing in the Piano Roll edito, that's why I'd always prefer vst's to hardware

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Tuesday, June 13th 2006, 10:02am

No, I guess he does it the same way like you with VST. He writes the melody in the piano roll editor and connects that channel with his hardware synth. The synth sends then his signal with the sounds or whatever it is =)
He only can't switch the presets as fast as you with VST. The second problem would be the using several times the same synth but with different sound.

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Tuesday, June 13th 2006, 11:01am

then he needs to bounce it. But the idea of sending MIDI and recieving audio is quite cool. Didn't think of that... :D

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Tuesday, June 13th 2006, 12:48pm

Quoted from ""SLK""

No, I guess he does it the same way like you with VST. He writes the melody in the piano roll editor and connects that channel with his hardware synth. The synth sends then his signal with the sounds or whatever it is =)
He only can't switch the presets as fast as you with VST. The second problem would be the using several times the same synth but with different sound.


There is no problem. Do you know a multiimode function? From Virus I can use 16 patches at the same time, from JP-8000 2 etc. I don't need to record one track and after that change my program in sythesizer ;) It's very, very easy to do it.

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Tuesday, June 13th 2006, 4:58pm

yo, that's cool, I was always afraid that after I will buy me a Virus TI or something, that it will be not so flexible as VST in that aspect. Anyway, I'm relieved to hear that.
Thanks for telling me that ! :)

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Wednesday, June 14th 2006, 7:41pm

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yo, that's cool, I was always afraid that after I will buy me a Virus TI or something, that it will be not so flexible as VST in that aspect. Anyway, I'm relieved to hear that.
Thanks for telling me that ! :)


The Virus TI comes with a VST plug-in, if you didn't know.
Meaning, you can use it as a VST, if youd like.

16 patches at the same time is a little extreme, i can get about 5-6 before i reach the 80-or-so polyphony limit. This is with separate FX for each sound aswell though. If you use external FX i'm sure it could handle around 16.

However, i'm a 1-sound-per-synth kinda guy, so i rarely use more than 2 instances of the Virus.

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Wednesday, June 14th 2006, 8:14pm

Aiii only heard about the VIRUS as a VST Instrument for the Powercore Cards. As I know, Virus as VST works only with Powercore cards and I don't have one.
Maybe you mean that I can control the Virus with some software program which comes with it.

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Wednesday, June 14th 2006, 8:53pm

read the reports in Keys (german magazine about music and computer) and you will find out that the TI can be remotely controlled by a software, that is recognized as a VST but uses the TI's internal hardware to create sounds

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Wednesday, June 14th 2006, 11:45pm

yea question. in cubase how would i set it up so i can use a microkorg with it?

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Wednesday, June 14th 2006, 11:50pm

LÖL, that is exactly that what I wanted to say, buddy: it's not a real "independent" VST because you need the Virus hardware engine to create the sounds. The only one real "independent" Virus VST is for Powercore cards only.

Just think about one thing: if such a synth really existed nodody would buy the Virus TI for 2000 €. Many people could download illegally the VST and use it without paying for that. The developers from Access are not so stupid to bring such a VST synth on the market.