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Quoted from ""MC A.H""

So you want that here is 10 active members?

And nothing said hat collecting itself is wrong. But then it gets wrong if you doesn't care how it sounds.

I will have 10 real fans then 100 non-fans anytime. :wink:

Oh do you mean 100 fans who doesn't like everything okay then.

By the way imagine this scenario. Everyone here likes everything Scooter makes. Would you like topics like this:

"I like this new track. It's wicked!"
"I like it too"
"Yeah it's crazy"
"Scooter did it again"
"I like it"

And all topics looks like that.

Wouldn't it suddenly become bit boring?

Although, i get what you're trying to say, A.H, i don't know whether you should be saying things like that. Comments like that make it seem as if we are criticising just to make the forum more interesting or to give us something to do. Which isn't the case - we actually have genuine concerns regardless of how interesting the forum is.

In a way, it would be nice if all the topics consisted of ...

"I like this new track. It's wicked!"
"I like it too"
"Yeah it's crazy"
"Scooter did it again"
"I like it"

At least then we might be able to surmise that Scooter were actually on the right track musically and creatively.

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So why don't they ever post anything?

I don't know, or really care, I represent only myself.
And pjad_uk, many things can affect to that, everything can be just coincidental, but I guess the reason is that most of you b4stards are too greedy and can't accept what Scooter has to offer.

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Haha. No-one ever cares about chartpositions itself. It's the music that matters.

Yes, that what it should be. Yet those people complain that "look, Scooter didn't make it to top 3, I'll kill myself and stop listening Scooter" etc.. :roll:

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But there's one problem with chartspositions for Scooter. Scooter is commercial band. Success means everything to them.

Here's this paradox again. If they want chart success why don't they make stuff that tops the charts? They surely have skills. It seems to me they clearly aren't trying to do that.

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But I really think that most of the albums are sold to teenagers because it's so "great music to dance to". Of couurse you can't see those teenagers anymore. That's why they doesn't climb to the charts. It's a shame that situation is like this. Before Scooter wasn't just thing for teenagers.

What are you trying to say? That Scooter is targeted for teenagers that like to dance, but such teenagers don't exist anymore because dance scene is dead? (And if there are no such teenagers how most of the albums are sold to them?) Why would they make music for non-existing audience? Nobody is that dump. (And how can it be a thing just for teenagers if such target group doesn't exist!?) :?
Anyways, it is great music to dance to, although I never dance. :wink:

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By the way teenagers doesn't know about better music...

If the better music is some cr4p trance I'm glad they don't.

Quoted from ""acid_bomb""

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So why don't they ever post anything?

I don't know, or really care, I represent only myself.
And pjad_uk, many things can affect to that, everything can be just coincidental, but I guess the reason is that most of you b4stards are too greedy and can't accept what Scooter has to offer.

I was born within wedlock, thank you. Although, i don't appreciate name-calling of any nature and your arguments lose all credibility when you starting restoring to such "tactics".

And let me assure you - nothing is coincidental.

I would reply to the stuff about chart positions but MC AH has said most of what needs to said below...

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Here's this paradox again. If they want chart success why don't they make stuff that tops the charts? They surely have skills. It seems to me they clearly aren't trying to do that.

Skills to make track after track which sounds the same. Believe me no-one are interested about Scooter because of that. I have heard so many times sentence "the all tracks sounds the same". Of course most of them haven't listened albums.

But then again there are those experiments. Scooter have noticed that house is pretty succesfull and so are discoinfluences. So they try to make that kind of track. And we got Shake That, ARTB and Suavemente.

Scooter themselves have made this situation. They themselves turned into fully commercial band. I really do hope that they stop thinking about chartpositions and becomes Scooter we used to have. And yes. We have uncommecial band and chartpositions aren't so meaningful.

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What are you trying to say? That Scooter is targeted for teenagers that like to dance, but such teenagers don't exist anymore because dance scene is dead? (And if there are no such teenagers how most of the albums are sold to them?) Why would they make music for non-existing audience? Nobody is that dump. (And how can it be a thing just for teenagers if such target group doesn't exist!?) :?
Anyways, it is great music to dance to, although I never dance. :wink:

I think too that Scooter is great to dance to (I danced to Maria when it was played) but music seems to be targeted to the big masses. And what the big masses are? Who buys most albums which are played in radio or in the club? Teenagers. Audience is still there but they are just not interested about Scooter anymore.

And... Which audience do you think WGTLLN? is targeted?

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If the better music is some cr4p trance I'm glad they don't.

Good music is always about personal opinion. Some of them would love trance, some of them electro, some of the goes away from EDM-scene. That's the way it is. They just don't know anything which exist outside the radio.

Edit: I also would like to know what are you considering as trance. i really want to know that do you have enough knowledge to claim it as a crap.

I didn't mean that as name calling. I thought the word was used in fairly non-negative sense in today's normal speech. I'm sorry if it's not.

Not that my arguments ever have any credibility. I don't care. (Paradoxical that I even bother writing, then.)

Maybe nothing is coincidental in your deterministic world, but don't think everyone agrees with you on that.

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I didn't mean that as name calling. I thought the word was used in fairly non-negative sense in today's normal speech. I'm sorry if it's not.

B*stard, although originally having no negative connotations when it first entered the English language, has grown in English to have negative connations far beyond its original meaning. Either way, i'm not a b*stard - for what it's worth.

Quoted from ""acid_bomb""

Not that my arguments ever have any credibility. I don't care. (Paradoxical that I even bother writing, then.)

You said that - nobody else. :wink:

Quoted from ""acid_bomb""

Maybe nothing is coincidental in your deterministic world, but don't think everyone agrees with you on that.

Human beings may not have the capabilities to know every cause of every effect and every effect of every cause but a cause and effect still exists. For example, a human being may not understand what has caused the sun to rise but he can be sure that something has caused it to rise. Whether this cause will cause it to rise again in the same fashion tomorrow is another matter that is unentirely unknowable.

Thus, the turning away of so many fans must also have its roots in some particular cause.

Luck, conicidence and fate - 3 very deceptive concepts in my eyes. Created by humans to try and reason a lack of control that human beings have over certain aspects of their existence.

But that's an off topic. :wink:

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Good music is always about personal opinion. Some of them would love trance, some of them electro, some of the goes away from EDM-scene. That's the way it is. They just don't know anything which exist outside the radio.

I find that hard to believe (WAKE UP RADIO PEOPLE!), but I'll take your word. Then again, not my problem..

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I also would like to know what are you considering as trance. i really want to know that do you have enough knowledge to claim it as a c##p.

You just stated that music is 'always about personal opinion', so I think I can call pretty much any kind of music cr4p if I don't like it. I don't think I should even reply to this..
Anyways, I don't know how I could define trance. I lack the knowledge of terms and the skill of defining something. I'm not expert on music genres either (and it often seems those genres are "lines drawn on water"). However, I think I have some approximation of it in my mind and thus mostly know what is trance. I don't think all the trance is that bad, I just don't generally like it that much, especially not subgenres such as goa and progressive.. I think there are many better genres to listen to. That's my opinon again, of course.

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You said that - nobody else.

You said first that my arguments lack credibility if I use word 'b4stard', and I replied that they never had any credibility anyways.
And, I already I said I'm sorry if you took that as some kind of insult. I meant it as harmless as saying "those lazy b4stards" (and apologize if that's considered harsh). I'm not native speaker.

You can prove nothing to other people. Feel free to believe in causality if you like to, but I'd advise you not to think that other people will consider as a truth whatever you say. Claiming luck and coincidence deceptive concepts is just the same than claiming the universe is driven by them. (This paragraph is paradoxical, again.)

Quoted from ""acid_bomb""

Here's this paradox again. If they want chart success why don't they make stuff that tops the charts? They surely have skills. It seems to me they clearly aren't trying to do that.

I doubt that such a band exists that wouldn't want make songs that would be succesful on charts.This is then just complete nonsense, why they even exist!

Despite the fact that music is artistical expression, every artist should try/hope that his song will be successful not only in charts, but also generally liked.

You're talking about skills that Scooter guys have...I think they had the skills but have ran out of ideas quite quickly after their beginning.Few bright ideas are still seen today, but mostly their skills are used for finding old/new tracks that are good for ripping, covering, you can't decline that.

Quoted from ""acid_bomb""

ou can prove nothing to other people. Feel free to believe in causality if you like to, but I'd advise you not to think that other people will consider as a truth whatever you say.

I hope you're aware of the fact that the same goes for you too...It doesn't seem like this right now.