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It's useless.
You're banging your head against a wall here.

Sigh.. I do understand this (supposed) pun. (This time differently than when I wrote my previous post. See below.)

First of all, when I replied to this topic I had understood something wrong. For some reason I thought 'excess' had something negative aspect or something, never mind exactly how.. That's why my reaction; I didn't think Scooter would choose anything negative to their title or word that'd get somehow negative meaning when used in a pun. I guess I was mentally mad. :roll: That's why I asked why would they use such a pun. I just had understood the word wrong.

Anyways, agree with you on the fact that Scooter is not stupid, and they have sense for such things. As in Trance-Atlantic you mentioned, which is a great title. I see now this supposed pun the way you see it. But then, why would they choose such a pun that isn't very good and don't necessarily create much mental images -- as this was the first topic (I guess) where it's mentioned that the title may be a pun. Previously I didn't even think it could be a pun, and it still doesn't bring me any clear mental images. Many Scooter fans (perhaps most of them) aren't native English speakers. They don't necessarily catch the drift. Perhaps Scooter thought it was good (and probably perfectly intelligible to them) but for me it isn't that good as a pun, since it doesn't have the effect a good pun does. I still like it as a name, though.

It may or may not be a purposeful pun. Either the way, it's now ironic as the dvd happens to be a victim of technology, as Sandra said. But whether it is meant to be a pun, that you can't be 100% sure of as Scooter hasn't stated it anywhere. Or can you read their mind now?
There are many other things the name could origin from and refer to..

However, just to say, it isn't that far-fetched to me anymore, now when I understand the word 'excess' correctly.

And, great post lyricalteaser.

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wake up! Scooter are a German band, and the came out big in germany, their label is in germany, the DVD is ritst published in germany, the songs are originally made for german people who don't care about englishc grammar.

That's a good point too..

Quoted from ""Sheffieldsfan""

Quoted from ""pjad_uk""

Why is it far-fetched? They wanted to give the DVD an interesting title so they've chosen one with a double meaning. I.e. Excess is similar to Access > Access All Areas refers to the notion of "having a backstage pass for a concert" or something > Excess means taking things to an extreme. Admittedly, it's a bad pan but it's a pun.

Excess All Areas on it's own just doesn't make sense. It's really bad English. If they wanted it to make grammatical sense they would have called it "Excessive In All Areas" or something. Scooter aren't stupid - they're experienced when it comes to the English language - they wouldn't have picked a title that doesn't really make sense if it didn't have some kind of double, punned meaning.

It's like the title - Trance-Atlantic. Again punned meaning > Trance sounds like Trans > Trans-Atlantic means to travel across the Atlantic, creating images in the mind of vast open stretches of ocean, and smooth movements across it > Trance describes the genre. Great title, deliberately chosen for double meaning.

What is so far-fetched and hard to understand? Je-sus!

maybe they chose the title to freak out their british fans :wink:

wake up! Scooter are a German band, and the came out big in germany, their label is in germany, the DVD is ritst published in germany, the songs are originally made for german people who don't care about englishc grammar. man, don't take their decisions personally

It's me that needs to wake up?! That's rich, mate.... :lol:

Indeed Scooter are a German band, and they "came out big" in Germany - indeed, their label is German. Indeed the majority of listeners are either German or another non-English speaking nationality....

However, Scooter's lyrics are in English (most of them anyway). All the band memebers are competent English speakers. H.P. especially. Most of the band's releases are named in English. Do you really believe that, after years and years of learning English and over 10 years of writing lyrics in English, Scooter aren't capable, aren't advanced enough at English to attempt using a pun in the titles of their releases? :roll: Let's not be naive.

My talk of grammar was nothing to do with the German audience's appreciation of English grammar. It was an attempt at showing you (and a few others) how the title Excess All Areas is a pun. Actually think about what i've written before you reply - that's if you actually read it properly.

And that last comment about "taking their decisions personally". Well, that has totally foxed me i'm afraid. How the hell you've worked that one out i don't know.

Quoted from ""acid_bomb""

Perhaps Scooter thought it was good (and probably perfectly intelligible to them) but for me it isn't that good as a pun, since it doesn't have the effect a good pun does. I still like it as a name, though.

I agree. It's a rubbish pun. But the fact that Excess All Areas makes no sense grammatically shows that Scooter are trying to use it as a pun. As i said if it wasn't a pun on Access All Areas then the title would probably be Excessive In All Areas.

Has it ever occured to you that there could eventually be no meaning what so ever behind those lyrics/titles?

And even if: then they made fun of access all areas (probably a hint towards the function "on stage camera") that's not a big deal, is it?

Quoted from ""Sheffieldsfan""

Has it ever occured to you that there could eventually be no meaning what so ever behind those lyrics/titles?

However strange their usage in certain contexts, all words have meaning, all of the time, both denotations and connotations. When comprehended by the human mind words are NEVER devoid of meaning.

Quoted from ""Sheffieldsfan""

And even if: then they made fun of access all areas (probably a hint towards the function "on stage camera") that's not a big deal, is it?

They aren't "making fun" - it's just a suggested double meaning by replacing one word with another that sounds similar but means something different. Simple. Obvious.

I doubt the title was intended to sound like that, but the situation has turned like that, so the title now seems "appropirate", let's say ironic.We could discuss for ages whether the irony of the title is against them or for them, but serious discussions about interesting things are on this forum Mission Impossible XXX, so let's better not start it.

I think many people are mistaken by the title/s...

Who's Got The Last Laugh Now? - In my opinion is saying that Scooter are much more than a 1 hit wonder sort of thing, and that their career has been very successful. Then again, its just a name!!! :lol:

Excess All Areas - I really think that this isnt the only version coming out. There was discussion about getting the missing footage, as they apparently did with the "Encore" releases.

Scooter are unfortunately FORCED to follow a marketing trend, to make more and more money, because if they didnt they would be left behind, and probably wouldnt exist.

Quoted from ""3PM/ozscooter""

Scooter are unfortunately FORCED to follow a marketing trend, to make more and more money, because if they didnt they would be left behind, and probably wouldnt exist.

I totally agree.

Quoted from ""3PM/ozscooter""

Scooter are unfortunately FORCED to follow a marketing trend, to make more and more money, because if they didnt they would be left behind, and probably wouldnt exist.

No, no, no. Music is not about making money. Or at least, it shouldn't be any artist's primary objective. Music isn't just making a living - it's a vocation of self-expression. The goal of money making can only distort and trivalize music.

Good artists will always (chart sucess or not, rolling in money or not) have fans and people who appreciate their music. Scooter should focus on making music for the love of making music, express themselves 100% as artists - if that happens to be successful commercially then fine. But they shouldn't be forced to follow a market trend. That will only make it more difficult for them to make music that is true to themselves as a band. Scooter's music should be 100% Scooter's and not the product of market trends and franchise techniques.

Quoted from ""pjad_uk""

Quoted from ""3PM/ozscooter""

Scooter are unfortunately FORCED to follow a marketing trend, to make more and more money, because if they didnt they would be left behind, and probably wouldnt exist.

No, no, no. Music is not about making money. Or at least, it shouldn't be any artist's primary objective. Music isn't just making a living - it's a vocation of self-expression. The goal of money making can only distort and trivalize music.

Good artists will always (chart sucess or not, rolling in money or not) have fans and people who appreciate their music. Scooter should focus on making music for the love of making music, express themselves 100% as artists - if that happens to be successful commercially then fine. But they shouldn't be forced to follow a market trend. That will only make it more difficult for them to make music that is true to themselves as a band. Scooter's music should be 100% Scooter's and not the product of market trends and franchise techniques.

I agree with you 100%!!!

Quoted from ""3PM/ozscooter""

Excess All Areas - I really think that this isnt the only version coming out. There was discussion about getting the missing footage, as they apparently did with the "Encore" releases.

From where or whom did you get this information that there will be another dvd with the missing tracks?

Quoted from ""lyricalteaser""

Quoted from ""pjad_uk""

Quoted from ""3PM/ozscooter""

Scooter are unfortunately FORCED to follow a marketing trend, to make more and more money, because if they didnt they would be left behind, and probably wouldnt exist.

No, no, no. Music is not about making money. Or at least, it shouldn't be any artist's primary objective. Music isn't just making a living - it's a vocation of self-expression. The goal of money making can only distort and trivalize music.

Good artists will always (chart sucess or not, rolling in money or not) have fans and people who appreciate their music. Scooter should focus on making music for the love of making music, express themselves 100% as artists - if that happens to be successful commercially then fine. But they shouldn't be forced to follow a market trend. That will only make it more difficult for them to make music that is true to themselves as a band. Scooter's music should be 100% Scooter's and not the product of market trends and franchise techniques.

I agree with you 100%!!!

I said they are forced to, not that they just make money because they want to.

Commercialism overwelms the music industry now, it is just a business. Sure Scooter and many other artists do it for the love of music, but they have to keep producing to be financially stable, because other artists make money out of it for that only reason. Do you understand what I mean?

And I believe that in another topic, i think Sandra said something about the missing tracks for the encore CD were supplied at some stage, so lets hope it is true.

Yes of course they earn a lot of money and they have to and its okay! But what i wanted to critizise is that it would be sad if they change for example their style (for example house) just because they know that more people would buy it and the tracks reach higher chartpositions. In the past more and and more house is played in many clubs in europe and techno or trance and stuff is not played very often anymore. its of course normal that they follow the trend a little bit and try to record some housetracks. But the red line of scooter is still there which the actual album shows. 100% scootersound that we love and this album is the best example to show that scooter are not addicted to the trend in the dance szene. They have found something big that they can decide on their own what they realise.

Quoted from ""lyricalteaser""

Yes of course they earn a lot of money and they have to and its okay! But what i wanted to critizise is that it would be sad if they change for example their style (for example house) just because they know that more people would buy it and the tracks reach higher chartpositions. In the past more and and more house is played in many clubs in europe and techno or trance and stuff is not played very often anymore. its of course normal that they follow the trend a little bit and try to record some housetracks. But the red line of scooter is still there which the actual album shows. 100% scootersound that we love and this album is the best example to show that scooter are not addicted to the trend in the dance szene. They have found something big that they can decide on their own what they realise.

Which reminds me... what is the most "scooterish" track in 12 years??? :lol:

Quoted from ""3PM/ozscooter""

Quoted from ""lyricalteaser""

Yes of course they earn a lot of money and they have to and its okay! But what i wanted to critizise is that it would be sad if they change for example their style (for example house) just because they know that more people would buy it and the tracks reach higher chartpositions. In the past more and and more house is played in many clubs in europe and techno or trance and stuff is not played very often anymore. its of course normal that they follow the trend a little bit and try to record some housetracks. But the red line of scooter is still there which the actual album shows. 100% scootersound that we love and this album is the best example to show that scooter are not addicted to the trend in the dance szene. They have found something big that they can decide on their own what they realise.

Which reminds me... what is the most "scooterish" track in 12 years??? :lol:

Hyper Hyper

Quoted from ""SCOOTERTHABEST""

Quoted from ""3PM/ozscooter""

Quoted from ""lyricalteaser""

Yes of course they earn a lot of money and they have to and its okay! But what i wanted to critizise is that it would be sad if they change for example their style (for example house) just because they know that more people would buy it and the tracks reach higher chartpositions. In the past more and and more house is played in many clubs in europe and techno or trance and stuff is not played very often anymore. its of course normal that they follow the trend a little bit and try to record some housetracks. But the red line of scooter is still there which the actual album shows. 100% scootersound that we love and this album is the best example to show that scooter are not addicted to the trend in the dance szene. They have found something big that they can decide on their own what they realise.

Which reminds me... what is the most "scooterish" track in 12 years??? :lol:

Hyper Hyper

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Quoted from ""scooterusa""

hyper hyper is awful. i like everything after ATBGO

But it all started with HH

Quoted from ""SCOOTERTHABEST""

Quoted from ""scooterusa""

hyper hyper is awful. i like everything after ATBGO

But it all started with HH

HH is great! - HH 2004 is just the best!