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Quoted from ""ice""

Whats the different?!

there' no :wink:

afaik.

Keyboards are just basically diff notes and different instruments and others to use.

Synths let you edit the sounds that come out...

I think thats simply right

Simply u can say, Keyboards have internal speakers...synths not.
In addition to DJBennetts post.

I can post on this forum with a keyboard, with a synth I can't :lol:

Allright, well basically "keyboard" means MIDI Master Keyboard (playing notes), and "synth" means Synthesizer (generating sounds). That's all.

yeh thats what i mean, what Imre said

And i bet u can post with a synth soon

Then get a yamaha / casio keyboard to around 3000 KR. they usually have what it takes for a beginner, and you don't need programs and other machines to make a sound of it.

I learned to play keyboard and to understand music a little on a child's casio keyboard. It was probably not worth more than some 200 KR as a new one i guess, but it had around 20 keys and a volume control

well, Access Virus, NordLead and Novation are THE synths for Dance Music (and not to forget the Roland JP 8000 which scooter also use), but they all are quite expensive. And one of the legendary Access Virus can only be bought second-handed, i think...
Are U sure, U really want a hardware synth? There R many good VST-synths as well and together with a decent MIDI-controller-keyboard (a MIDI keyboard with knobs and faders in addition to the normal keys) U can also achieve goo results...And it may cost less than a Hardware synth.

There R 2 types of synths: the keyboard-versions and the rack-ones. the rack-ones only differ from the others that they don't have keys, so U need another externel keyboard to play them, but on the other hand they are cheaper...

When it comes to VST-synths, i would reccomend the Vanguard ReFX. That is THE Dance/Trance/Techno-synth!

it is your decision, which cathegory U choose, but I am totally fine with vsts...

Quoted from ""Raveheart""

I learned to play keyboard and to understand music a little on a child's casio keyboard. It was probably not worth more than some 200 KR as a new one i guess, but it had around 20 keys and a volume control

I got a yamaha one... sooooo damn old... But i still think of tunez on it (just to find a way to get it onto the piano roll in FL properly...grr

i will probably buy a jp 8000 in a few weeks

How much does it cost? Where will U buy it?

Quoted from ""Sheffieldsfan""

How much does it cost? Where will U buy it?

you can find the jp 8000 at about 450 euros .
you can find some on ebay or you can directly contact people on music forums :wink: