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Monday, January 9th 2006, 7:16am

Automation Clips with Plugins

With plugins such as vanguard, superwave, etc how would I go about automating.... say cutoff or something like that because I cant figure out a way. Also I am having trouble getting my bass to overpower my main lad in a song. i tried using a kick along with the fruit kick plugin, reeverb, bass boost and compresser and am having a hard time hearing the bass over the main lead. Any thoughts. Thanks and Danke.



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Monday, January 9th 2006, 2:51pm

The easiest sollution: choose/create another sound for the bass in your track.

If you wanna make the bass more dominant in your song then you have to use a compressor. If it doesn't help then maybe is your Lead and other sounds are too loud.

Manuel

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Monday, January 9th 2006, 3:03pm

use a pitchbass..sounds a lot harder 8)

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Monday, January 9th 2006, 3:17pm

using automation with plug-ins like vasnguard is easy. In the top left corner of the plug-ins...you'll see a button.

A menu will pop down, and you'll get an option that says "browse parameters".

I learned this on my own when I wanted to use automation with plug-ins, and did it by recording a pattern....and then manually record automation with a knob.

Anyway, once you click on the "browse parameters", to the left in the browser...you'll see parameters for every knob that is being used in the program.

Right-click on any of the parameters you see that pop up in the browser.

Example: You do this, and you see labels like "Cutoff1", "envfil"..

once you right-click, another menu will pop down...and there will be an option that says "create automation clip".

After that. You simply drag the automation button into the playlist on the bottom. I think you can do this with waves also...and time-stretch wav files. I never do that. I use slices for vocals now, it's much easier to edit vocals that way.
Shout-outs go to: SLK, Hard C. Pusher, Soul Train, Dream Guardians, Deepforces, Ic3m4n, Trance-Atlantic, and N.E.O.N. Project. Thank you for your supports and feedback.

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Tuesday, January 10th 2006, 3:24am

thanks so much man you rock. tales always has the best advice 8)

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Tuesday, January 10th 2006, 12:20pm

No problem.
Shout-outs go to: SLK, Hard C. Pusher, Soul Train, Dream Guardians, Deepforces, Ic3m4n, Trance-Atlantic, and N.E.O.N. Project. Thank you for your supports and feedback.

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Wednesday, January 11th 2006, 8:11am

Quoted from ""DJ Baseline""

use a pitchbass..sounds a lot harder 8)


what exactly is pitchbass?

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Wednesday, January 11th 2006, 9:12am

Trilogy is by far the best bass vst out there...much better than Bass-station, Vanguard, and V-station.

But, Trilogy is huge and the price is a bit high....but definitely worth having a copy of. Special D. uses Trilogy, and you can hear it in a lot of his songs.
Shout-outs go to: SLK, Hard C. Pusher, Soul Train, Dream Guardians, Deepforces, Ic3m4n, Trance-Atlantic, and N.E.O.N. Project. Thank you for your supports and feedback.

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Wednesday, January 11th 2006, 3:34pm

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use a pitchbass..sounds a lot harder 8)


what exactly is pitchbass?


hmm not easy tpoo explain..especialy in english.. if you have a 1/8 note you ptch 1/16 of this note down..hmm don't know if you understand me..i will produce an example and upload it..gimme some time

Manuel

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Wednesday, January 11th 2006, 4:29pm

okay here it is:
http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2E1CN0VN88O5S2IQ7V418AVRW8

i did this in 2 minutes :)

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Wednesday, January 11th 2006, 5:49pm

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Trilogy is by far the best bass vst out there...much better than Bass-station, Vanguard, and V-station.

But, Trilogy is huge and the price is a bit high....but definitely worth having a copy of. Special D. uses Trilogy, and you can hear it in a lot of his songs.


yes i know, Trilogy is great! maybe I'll get it soon :D
the fact with spectrasonic vst's (like trilogy) is that you get a database of 3gb with samples, some basssamples for example are 200 mb, so you get very realistic basssounds, also for acoustic bass etc, not only synthbass

sometimes I also use TBL, it's a TB303 but as a vst instrument, I thought this was a free plug-in



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Wednesday, January 11th 2006, 6:16pm

Quoted from ""talesoffantasy""

Trilogy is by far the best bass vst out there...much better than Bass-station, Vanguard, and V-station.

But, Trilogy is huge and the price is a bit high....but definitely worth having a copy of. Special D. uses Trilogy, and you can hear it in a lot of his songs.



That is true ! Trilogy rulez ! :) It's one of the best VSTs for bass.

Anonymous

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Wednesday, January 11th 2006, 7:10pm

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okay here it is:
http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2E1CN0VN88O5S2IQ7V418AVRW8

i did this in 2 minutes :)


wow thats hard! how do you get such proffesional sounding base, is this possible in FL Studio, you have cubase right? thanks i think i understand what you mean.

Manuel

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Wednesday, January 11th 2006, 7:12pm

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okay here it is:
http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2E1CN0VN88O5S2IQ7V418AVRW8

i did this in 2 minutes :)


wow thats hard! how do you get such proffesional sounding base, is this possible in FL Studio, you have cubase right? thanks i think i understand what you mean.


no..i did it with reason 3.0. I don't know fl studio very well and I don't know things like automation...but this is the pitchbend. you have it on every synth in reason. Ask tales :lol: he knows for sure

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Wednesday, January 11th 2006, 9:41pm

Yeah, you can use pitch bend in flstudio...but you will need a midi keyboard in order to utilize it..whereas reason includes one in each module in Reason, and you can automate the pitch bend.

If you don't have a midi keyboard, get one as soon as possible...you can get one for around 100 bucks that will include at the minimum keys, pitch bend, modulation (same as release)...and some buttons. But, I recommend ether a midi keyboard with knobs, or a midi keyboard and a mixer with midi support (they even have midi mixers/controllers).

Making electronic music without a midi keyboard..is like painting a picture with a bar of soap, it just doesn't work.

I'm in the process of making a new Reason track, but I might have to publish it so I can include all the samples I'm going to use...along with Refills. Using just Reason's included soundbanks can't cut it for me.
Shout-outs go to: SLK, Hard C. Pusher, Soul Train, Dream Guardians, Deepforces, Ic3m4n, Trance-Atlantic, and N.E.O.N. Project. Thank you for your supports and feedback.