Those of you who have left the forum please read........

Sandra

I Wish I was a raver with neon coloured hair!

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 8:09pm

There is always a fair amount of "heated discussion" around a new release, especially if it involves covering, sampling or whatever. This time there is the additional Glitter issue as well.

But I am dismayed to see so many people saying that they are leaving, or thinking of leaving

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As Butcher said earlier "This leaving is like surrendering.When one does it, the others think it's fashion to do it... "

I agree!!!!

Soon just those who argue will be left.

It is not good to see members leaving or talking of leaving in this way, especially those who have been here so long and contributed so much. You have got to stand by your convictions, and are entitled to your opinions, and others should respect you for that, but you can't just give in and leave. How will it ever get better if you just go?

If people start leaving we will just be left with two hardline sets of people:

those who could not / would not ever critise Scooter whatever they did

and those who critise all the time

We need people with views and values who are not afraid to say what they believe, fans who love Scooter but sometimes don't like something they do and should be allowed to say so without attack.

I know it is not much fun to hear the same arguements over and over, and I know it hurts to be critised for you views, but its best to try (hard as it might be) just to ignore it and not answer.

We must have respect and tolerance for each other, if we keep saying this and believing in it then maybe it will happen, but leaving won't help.

I guess we will never all agree - we are a very different collection of people, from different places, different ages and backgrounds and beliefs. Lets keep it that way, and try to restore some normallity here.

Those of you who are leaving or have left - please reconsider, you all have a lot of friends here, and together we can make it a happy place again

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SilverX

Everything's Borrowed

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Location: Sweden

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 8:13pm

well said....

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Dave From Sheffield

Volvo. A car you can believe in.

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Location: Finland

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 8:16pm

You know, it really sucks to see so many people leaving. And then we have these members who never post anything. That's irritating... Anyway, i'm sure there are still many fans who will not ever leave the forum. And i'm one of them... a true fan.

TOGETHER...WE SHALL RULE THIS FORUM FOREVER!

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-the only and official finnish Scooter fansite incl. the biggest Scooter-collection in Finland-

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Scobom X

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 8:18pm

First of all, what mean "many people leave"? I noticed 3 people leave (inculde 1 sick hater).

But to the point.

Sandra, we will never have peace here.
Look, even everybody will respect each other and not argueing, then "person" like developer will come, say "Scooter is shit and robbers" and the whole thing will start again. It's like in real life - even when everything is OK, some s-hit head will at last appear to ruin everything. Am I wrong?

But I don't care about this. As I said, it's only forum.

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Sandra

I Wish I was a raver with neon coloured hair!

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 8:22pm

Quoted from ""Scobom X""

First of all, what mean "many people leave"? I noticed 3 people leave (inculde 1 sick hater).

But to the point.

Sandra, we will never have peace here.
Look, even everybody will respect each other and not argueing, then "person" like developer will come, say "Scooter is S##t and robbers" and the whole thing will start again. It's like in real life - even when everything is OK, some s-hit head will at last appear to ruin everything. Am I wrong?

But I don't care about this. As I said, it's only forum.

I know we will never have peace, but I hate to think that people are driven away and feel they can no longer stay here.

I have made some good friends through this forum, and met a lot of nice people and I don't like to see this happening

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Scobom X

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 8:25pm

Quoted from ""Sandra""

Quoted from ""Scobom X""

First of all, what mean "many people leave"? I noticed 3 people leave (inculde 1 sick hater).

But to the point.

Sandra, we will never have peace here.
Look, even everybody will respect each other and not argueing, then "person" like developer will come, say "Scooter is S##t and robbers" and the whole thing will start again. It's like in real life - even when everything is OK, some s-hit head will at last appear to ruin everything. Am I wrong?

But I don't care about this. As I said, it's only forum.

I know we will never have peace, but I hate to think that people are driven away and feel they can no longer stay here.

I have made some good friends through this forum, and met a lot of nice people and I don't like to see this happening

Their not dead you know...

Sorry to say it (I'am honest), you take it seriouslly, but it's funny for me (all this "leaving case").

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pjad_uk

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 8:30pm

Well, i'm not going anywhere. I'll continue to be part of this community, being as honest but at the same time as reasonable and respectful as possible. As always. :wink:

"In the pressure of the situation, I won't let my tongue get tied
A silent voice in the congregation, I refuse to live a lie"
Angelic - Can't Keep Me Silent

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Scobom X

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 8:33pm

Quoted from ""pjad_uk""

Well, i'm not going anywhere. I'll continue to be part of this community, being as honest but at the same time as reasonable and respectful as possible. As always. :wink:

Good to hear it

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Hennes

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 8:43pm

Sandra, I sign everything you just said there.
I wont levae the forum and I hope that noone does and the ones who plan to leave reconsider that step.
Why cant the forum just be the nice place it used to be more than one year ago?

100 % of the Mexican Scooter Posse

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Imre -SP-

aka. DJ Flatline

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Location: Budapest / Hungary

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 8:48pm

"...I stand here, before you now, truthfully, unafraid! Why? Because I believe something those haters do not? NO! I stand here without fear because I remember! I remeber that 3 years that I spent on this forum so far, arguing with each others opinions. I remember that for 3 years we have suffered from spammers, haters and morons. And in 3 years of being a loyal member, noone could bring us down!"

WE ARE STILL HERE!!!

Sorry, just had to say this, fits here

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UK Dave

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 8:59pm

Quoted from ""Imre_Vincze""

WE ARE STILL HERE!!![/b]

Indeed we are, Imre!

No-one should be leaving because of arguments. I completely agree with you all!

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Butcher

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 9:08pm

I don't really love the song Age of Love, but phrase used in it is really great:

Unity instead of fight,
come on and re-unite!

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andruschco

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 10:39pm

well,dont know that much about many people leaving ,but it sickens me really that my friend had her driversliscence one week and some freak drove on her side of the road all of a sudden when she drove by....she didnt hit a car just then (lucky everybody)but that idiot should know you cant fool around with cars if a person is not that experienced with a car....he was laughing because he scared her at that point in time........but now loads of anger goes his way....not just for this, also for continuing botherings he is doing.and since he is also on the forum being verry happy........my friend left......now that *nice*person already knows she is angry,cause she told him that...................but still she doesnt want to return and see him talking to her with another nickname.....to bad ...his wife is nice but she married a not so good thinking person.

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Yikes!

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 10:42pm

Quoted from ""pjad_uk""

Well, i'm not going anywhere. I'll continue to be part of this community, being as honest but at the same time as reasonable and respectful as possible. As always. :wink:

I agree! And well put Sandra! You're like the wise oracle on the forum.

:wink:

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Wil Piotraschke

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 10:54pm

Such wisdom!

I do agree. People shouldn't get fed up and leave. If it comes to that point, just stop posting in that certain thread. There is plenty more to do around here!

- Will

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andruschco

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 10:58pm

Quoted from ""RockTheNation""

Such wisdom!

I do agree. People shouldn't get fed up and leave. If it comes to that point, just stop posting in that certain thread. There is plenty more to do around here!

- Will

posting in this or any other thread didnt mind......he still knew what she had posted...

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Yikes!

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 11:05pm

Quoted from ""RockTheNation""

Such wisdom!

I do agree. People shouldn't get fed up and leave. If it comes to that point, just stop posting in that certain thread. There is plenty more to do around here!

- Will

totally, like drawing pictures.

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Ed

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 11:23pm

I'm here everyday for the last couple of years. I'm not in the mood for posting. It seems like I'm a fanatic if I read some of your descriptions.... I'm just a fan like anyone else. To be honest I'm glad that Space Comboy / PitchShifter has left... Hours on this forum just spreading and repeating negative information... It's just wrong. Everybody has the right for their own opinion but respect others also ! Thats was wrong about Space Cowboy / Pitch Shifter. We are not blind, but he. If you like the song, then buy it... Don't like it, don't buy it. It's that simple. Saying that you don''t like covers is ok, but repeating with 200 words in every post that covers aren't ok is a waste of time.

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Scobom X

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Monday, September 12th 2005, 11:29pm

Quoted from ""Ed""

I'm here everyday for the last couple of years. I'm not in the mood for posting. It seems like I'm a fanatic if I read some of your descriptions.... I'm just a fan like anyone else. To be honest I'm glad that Space Comboy / PitchShifter has left... Hours on this forum just spreading and repeating negative information... It's just wrong. Everybody has the right for their own opinion but respect others also ! Thats was wrong about Space Cowboy / Pitch Shifter. We are not blind, but he. If you like the song, then buy it... Don't like it, don't buy it. It's that simple. Saying that you don''t like covers is ok, but repeating with 200 words in every post that covers aren't ok is a waste of time.

I totally agree.